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For those curious, Alexander Grischuk did put out a fairly strong statement of condemnation of the invasion: https://worldchess.com/news/all/alexander-grischuk-

For those curious, Alexander Grischuk did put out a fairly strong statement of condemnation of the invasion: https://worldchess.com/news/all/alexander-grischuk-on-the-russias-invasion-of-ukraine-its-extrem/ https://worldchess.com/news/all/alexander-grischuk-on-the-ru... Pretty brave of him.

dandanua 5y ago
It does nothing. It's a statement for the west audience. He can't say the same in Russian for the Russian audience loudly. Because in this case he will be put in jail for years. Wake up, Russia is a fascists state. Which is on the blood run.
- ASalazarMX 5y ago
  Forbidding him to play chess also won't stop a single bullet or ruble destined to their war. This sudden Russian = Evil attitude is nonsensical, the Russian government and its oligarchy are the real evil, and they don't care for chess.
- s1artibartfast 5y ago
  So perhaps we should find the Russians in our own communities and punish them as well
rvz 5y ago
Looks like Norway Chess could not distinguish between the individual's view vs the views of the Russian Government and did an over-reactionary blanket ban on any Russian which is beyond stupid, even though he condemned it. Does that mean if say, Garry Kasparov was to play against another chess player, he should be banned even though he also condemned the invasion? Quite ridiculous tbh. Even Russian cats are banned [0], they don't have a view of the Russian governments actions on the invasion either and have nothing to do with it, except 'being from Russia'. Of course from them, there's no redemption. Anything Russian thrown into the lost and banned. To Downvoters: You do realise you can be Russian and be against the Russian government and condemn the whole invasion right? [0] https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1499289953443930113 https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1499289953443930113
ASalazarMX 5y ago
Frankly I'm getting tired of all the psyops flood. This helps nil because they're only inconveniencing Alexander, not the Russian government, their military or their oligarchy. Of all the sports, I would have thought chess would be much less prone to politics because chess players are almost free agents.
- TomGullen 5y ago
  > Of all the sports, I would have thought chess would be much less prone to politics because chess players are almost free agents. Are you at all aware of the history of chess?!?
  - mathisonturing 5y ago
    Please share for those uninitiated like me
    - lupire 5y ago
      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess_(musical) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess_(musical)
    - tpm 5y ago
      Fischer - Spassky 1972
    - buzzy_hacker 5y ago
      World Chess Championship 1972 was widely viewed as a proxy for the Cold War
    - Someone 5y ago
      Many people think that, in the time of the USSR, Russian chess players conspired to make sure a Soviet player won tournaments. For example, they would try harder to beat strong non-Soviet players than to beat strong Soviet players, would throw away games to give a Soviet player more points, would offer a draw very soon to give a Soviet player time to rest/prepare for theirnext matig, etc. There’s also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Chess_Championship_1948#Controversy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Chess_Championship_1948#...
throwaway5752 5y ago
It absolutely is brave of him, and really commendable. The bravery of a large part of the Russian citizenry who have so much to lose by speaking up is inspiring.

dandanua 5y ago

It does nothing. It's a statement for the west audience. He can't say the same in Russian for the Russian audience loudly. Because in this case he will be put in jail for years. Wake up, Russia is a fascists state. Which is on the blood run.

ASalazarMX 5y ago
Forbidding him to play chess also won't stop a single bullet or ruble destined to their war. This sudden Russian = Evil attitude is nonsensical, the Russian government and its oligarchy are the real evil, and they don't care for chess.
s1artibartfast 5y ago
So perhaps we should find the Russians in our own communities and punish them as well

rvz 5y ago

Looks like Norway Chess could not distinguish between the individual's view vs the views of the Russian Government and did an over-reactionary blanket ban on any Russian which is beyond stupid, even though he condemned it. Does that mean if say, Garry Kasparov was to play against another chess player, he should be banned even though he also condemned the invasion? Quite ridiculous tbh. Even Russian cats are banned [0], they don't have a view of the Russian governments actions on the invasion either and have nothing to do with it, except 'being from Russia'. Of course from them, there's no redemption. Anything Russian thrown into the lost and banned. To Downvoters: You do realise you can be Russian and be against the Russian government and condemn the whole invasion right? [0] https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1499289953443930113 https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1499289953443930113

ASalazarMX 5y ago

Frankly I'm getting tired of all the psyops flood. This helps nil because they're only inconveniencing Alexander, not the Russian government, their military or their oligarchy. Of all the sports, I would have thought chess would be much less prone to politics because chess players are almost free agents.

TomGullen 5y ago
> Of all the sports, I would have thought chess would be much less prone to politics because chess players are almost free agents. Are you at all aware of the history of chess?!?
- mathisonturing 5y ago
  Please share for those uninitiated like me
  - lupire 5y ago
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess_(musical) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess_(musical)
  - tpm 5y ago
    Fischer - Spassky 1972
  - buzzy_hacker 5y ago
    World Chess Championship 1972 was widely viewed as a proxy for the Cold War
  - Someone 5y ago
    Many people think that, in the time of the USSR, Russian chess players conspired to make sure a Soviet player won tournaments. For example, they would try harder to beat strong non-Soviet players than to beat strong Soviet players, would throw away games to give a Soviet player more points, would offer a draw very soon to give a Soviet player time to rest/prepare for theirnext matig, etc. There’s also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Chess_Championship_1948#Controversy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Chess_Championship_1948#...

throwaway5752 5y ago

It absolutely is brave of him, and really commendable. The bravery of a large part of the Russian citizenry who have so much to lose by speaking up is inspiring.