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Understandable in light of sanctions against Russia. However, this truly sucks for him as an individual, particularly in light of what he had to say about the

Understandable in light of sanctions against Russia. However, this truly sucks for him as an individual, particularly in light of what he had to say about the invasion. The man is truly pained. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFN0s53RpGY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFN0s53RpGY

yaseer 5y ago
Yeah that really sucks. It's understandable when the lines between state and individual are blurred - like with state sponsored doping of Olympic athletes, who are competing as part of a national organisation. But when it's an individual whose nationality just happens to be Russian? Seems more unfair, than just.
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encryptluks2 5y ago
It isn't understandable really. What is happening here is discrimination and can't be justified. Unless they have some proof that they are a spy or as an extension of Russian government for a dangerous intent, then there is no excuse. This is only going to create more conflict and tension, and generate hatred in people that would otherwise be neutral.
- mwt 5y ago
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  - unethical_ban 5y ago
    Oh, please. Ethically, they should have a justification to their actions. If they get to kick people out for their nationality (when that person is not "representing" a nation) then I get to think they're foolish.
  - drugstorecowboy 5y ago
    Framing a rescinded invitation as discrimination is not a stretch at all, it very literally is discrimination. If you replace this definitely not discriminatory action against a Russian with a Black Man would you still support it?
- JumpCrisscross 5y ago
  > What is happening here is discrimination and can't be justified It is discrimination. And it's entirely justified. The same way when, if your friend stars a bar brawl, you all get kicked out. Only he should get e.g. arrested. But there's a big difference between not being able to compete for your country and getting shelled.
  - encryptluks2 5y ago
    Wow, so you believe people of color deserve discrimination because statistically they commit more violent crime?
    - belval 5y ago
      You are presenting a stunning example of the moat-and-bailey fallacy[1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motte-and-bailey_fallacy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motte-and-bailey_fallacy

yaseer 5y ago

Yeah that really sucks. It's understandable when the lines between state and individual are blurred - like with state sponsored doping of Olympic athletes, who are competing as part of a national organisation. But when it's an individual whose nationality just happens to be Russian? Seems more unfair, than just.

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encryptluks2 5y ago

It isn't understandable really. What is happening here is discrimination and can't be justified. Unless they have some proof that they are a spy or as an extension of Russian government for a dangerous intent, then there is no excuse. This is only going to create more conflict and tension, and generate hatred in people that would otherwise be neutral.

mwt 5y ago
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- unethical_ban 5y ago
  Oh, please. Ethically, they should have a justification to their actions. If they get to kick people out for their nationality (when that person is not "representing" a nation) then I get to think they're foolish.
- drugstorecowboy 5y ago
  Framing a rescinded invitation as discrimination is not a stretch at all, it very literally is discrimination. If you replace this definitely not discriminatory action against a Russian with a Black Man would you still support it?
JumpCrisscross 5y ago
> What is happening here is discrimination and can't be justified It is discrimination. And it's entirely justified. The same way when, if your friend stars a bar brawl, you all get kicked out. Only he should get e.g. arrested. But there's a big difference between not being able to compete for your country and getting shelled.
- encryptluks2 5y ago
  Wow, so you believe people of color deserve discrimination because statistically they commit more violent crime?
  - belval 5y ago
    You are presenting a stunning example of the moat-and-bailey fallacy[1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motte-and-bailey_fallacy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motte-and-bailey_fallacy