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My mother had an energy bill that was 3x higher than before. This shit is funny when you're in the valley and you have 6000 in pocket money to burn on stuff, bu

My mother had an energy bill that was 3x higher than before. This shit is funny when you're in the valley and you have 6000 in pocket money to burn on stuff, but in Europe that means some peoples monthly rental expenses doubled. It's actually an existential threat for a lot of people. The German leadership just like the USA is so far detached from the normal population that they won't care, and the normal population in Germany isn't like in the middle east, so they will likely take it with some complaints. But since you can't easily get loans like in the US in Germany I wonder what that will mean for people that can no longer afford their bills though. I've seen people being taken to jail in Germany for unpaid 20 Euro bills or not paying public transit.

laurent92 5y ago
They might be happy that their carbon independence finally becomes a thing and that their doomsday finally reifies. Worsening the sanctions until Russia cuts the gas is exactly aligned with their view of the world, and the worst thing that would happen would be peace.
aivisol 5y ago
> It's actually an existential threat for a lot of people. I am sorry but you have your priorities wrong. The existential threat to all of us is sitting in Kremlin and we must stop him now. I am in Europe, winters in my country are cold with lows to -30 celsius and our the government has been shortsighted/corrupt for decades that we depend on Russian gas for heating for full 100%. But I will support cutting off that pipeline without thinking a second even if it costs me triple or whatever, or will be installing a wood stove. I have been of the other side of the Iron curtain for good part of my life, and believe me, energy bill will be your least worry.
rosndo 5y ago
It’s the people unwilling to wear a little more clothes inside in order to reduce our dependence on an aggressive dictator with nuclear weapons who are out of touch, not the politicians. Just put on more clothes and turn your heating down, easy to drastically reduce your gas bill. Most homes also have tons of low hanging fruit to improve insulation. I know I’d be more than happy to wear an extra sweater or two in order to have Europe without wars.
- jnxx 5y ago
  Or even, use an electric blanket. Much cheaper than heating the room, much better in terms of Carbon, and sooo comfortable.

laurent92 5y ago

They might be happy that their carbon independence finally becomes a thing and that their doomsday finally reifies. Worsening the sanctions until Russia cuts the gas is exactly aligned with their view of the world, and the worst thing that would happen would be peace.

aivisol 5y ago

> It's actually an existential threat for a lot of people. I am sorry but you have your priorities wrong. The existential threat to all of us is sitting in Kremlin and we must stop him now. I am in Europe, winters in my country are cold with lows to -30 celsius and our the government has been shortsighted/corrupt for decades that we depend on Russian gas for heating for full 100%. But I will support cutting off that pipeline without thinking a second even if it costs me triple or whatever, or will be installing a wood stove. I have been of the other side of the Iron curtain for good part of my life, and believe me, energy bill will be your least worry.

rosndo 5y ago

It’s the people unwilling to wear a little more clothes inside in order to reduce our dependence on an aggressive dictator with nuclear weapons who are out of touch, not the politicians. Just put on more clothes and turn your heating down, easy to drastically reduce your gas bill. Most homes also have tons of low hanging fruit to improve insulation. I know I’d be more than happy to wear an extra sweater or two in order to have Europe without wars.

jnxx 5y ago
Or even, use an electric blanket. Much cheaper than heating the room, much better in terms of Carbon, and sooo comfortable.