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The problem was that the coffee was way, way hotter than it was supposed to be, which resulted in serious injury to the customer. The pictures are gruesome. Th

by biohax2015 5y ago

The problem was that the coffee was way, way hotter than it was supposed to be, which resulted in serious injury to the customer. The pictures are gruesome. The blame was on McDonalds for negligently selling a dangerous product to a customer. You can look up the case for the details.

dpark 5y ago
Standard coffee temperature recommendations reach 185. McDonald’s standards are up to 190. This is not “way hotter”. I’ve read about the case.
- hcknwscommenter 5y ago
  You are purposely conflating the temperature at which coffee should be made (~185), with the temperature at which coffee should be served (~160). Yes, some folks suggest they are drinking 175 degree coffee. Those folks are wrong.
  - dpark 5y ago
    This is a weird split. Do you typically make coffee and then leave it sitting for 20 minutes before consuming? I make coffee and then drink it. Also, no. Coffee is brewed higher than 185. The Specialty Coffee Association on their own page advocates for 195-205 for brewing temp. https://sca.coffee/research/protocols-best-practices https://sca.coffee/research/protocols-best-practices Wikipedia claims that SCA advises up to 185 for serving and that Starbucks does exactly that. I don’t see citations for this specifically, though. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v._McDonald%27s_Restaurants https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v._McDonald%27s_Rest... “Similarly, as of 2004, Starbucks sells coffee at 175–185 °F (79–85 °C), and the executive director of the Specialty Coffee Association of America reported that the standard serving temperature is 160–185 °F (71–85 °C).”
    - dpark 5y ago
      For fun, I went and brewed a cup of coffee on my Nespresso. Coffee coming out was 185 degrees. The finished cup was 170 (but that obviously depends a lot on the cup). If this was brewing into a foam cup, it would have been served very close to 185. Regardless I’m currently drinking a cup of coffee quite close to the 175 number you seem to think is unrealistic. Yeah, it’s hot. It’s definitely not the hottest coffee I’ve ever had, though.

dpark 5y ago

Standard coffee temperature recommendations reach 185. McDonald’s standards are up to 190. This is not “way hotter”. I’ve read about the case.

hcknwscommenter 5y ago
You are purposely conflating the temperature at which coffee should be made (~185), with the temperature at which coffee should be served (~160). Yes, some folks suggest they are drinking 175 degree coffee. Those folks are wrong.
- dpark 5y ago
  This is a weird split. Do you typically make coffee and then leave it sitting for 20 minutes before consuming? I make coffee and then drink it. Also, no. Coffee is brewed higher than 185. The Specialty Coffee Association on their own page advocates for 195-205 for brewing temp. https://sca.coffee/research/protocols-best-practices https://sca.coffee/research/protocols-best-practices Wikipedia claims that SCA advises up to 185 for serving and that Starbucks does exactly that. I don’t see citations for this specifically, though. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v._McDonald%27s_Restaurants https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v._McDonald%27s_Rest... “Similarly, as of 2004, Starbucks sells coffee at 175–185 °F (79–85 °C), and the executive director of the Specialty Coffee Association of America reported that the standard serving temperature is 160–185 °F (71–85 °C).”
  - dpark 5y ago
    For fun, I went and brewed a cup of coffee on my Nespresso. Coffee coming out was 185 degrees. The finished cup was 170 (but that obviously depends a lot on the cup). If this was brewing into a foam cup, it would have been served very close to 185. Regardless I’m currently drinking a cup of coffee quite close to the 175 number you seem to think is unrealistic. Yeah, it’s hot. It’s definitely not the hottest coffee I’ve ever had, though.