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> Azerbaijan expelled the Armenian population from Baku in the 90s pogroms Armenians started assaulting and expelling Azerbaijanis back in 1987 (Kapan/Kafan).

• bonzini 5y ago
  True. Though the number was at least an order of magnitude smaller than Sumgait/Baku.
• nonesuchluck 5y ago
  This mini-thread accidentally explains why the West don't, won't, and can't care about Azerbaijan/Armenia violence: it's fucking incomprehensible. Tribes killing each other for generations, for complicated reasons that no one without a relevant PhD will understand. It seems intractable, so we throw up our hands and focus elsewhere, somewhere with a simpler narrative. Everyone gets uptight about the word "uncivilized," but this kind of generational tribal conflict _is_ a failure of civilization. I don't know what causes civilization (it sure ain't skin tone), but without clear villain/victim narratives, and heroes to root for (brave Ukrainians fighting for their own liberation), no one will care. And that's tragic, too, but it's not a commentary on the underlying tragedy of human suffering and death, that people in every nation hurt the same.
  • tumanian 5y ago
    You defer to the tv ratings and PR campaigns to define ‘civilization’.
    • JAlexoid 5y ago
      Modern definition - if you're driven by emotions, over principles and self reflection. And yes - Armenians are failing to be in any way rational about the long standing conflict.