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Maybe their news debunks ours, can you prove there isn't a holocaust going on in Ukraine right now? It's almost impossible to disprove a negative, and any reaso

Maybe their news debunks ours, can you prove there isn't a holocaust going on in Ukraine right now? It's almost impossible to disprove a negative, and any reasonable argument can be dismissed off hand as a lie. In fact if there was a holocaust in Ukraine right now being perpetrated by the west wouldn't they just deny it? The point of Russian propaganda is to create noise it doesn't have to be right it just has to make noise.

megous 5y ago
Maybe if their news were independent. Holocaust: It happened mostly away from the cities, so that's likely how it would be happenig now, too. So if Russians wanted to reveal that that is happening, all that would need to happen was for them to send some scouts/spies/infiltrators to the locations where the mass extermination is happening and make a bunch of videos and publish them. There would be no need to shell and try to siege cities, shoot into civilians, etc. Instead of this, all we get is a ton of imagery of destroyed Ukranian cities, and killings of civilians. We can't maybe disprove the negative, but we don't need to. Russia needs to prove the positive.
- dangerface 5y ago
  Russia doesn't need to prove anything they just need to increase the noise to signal ratio to the point where proof and facts are irrelevant. Russia faked satellite pictures of a Ukraine fighter jet shooting down MH17. They are obvious fakes too the plane is missing Malaysia markings but any western news source that proves they are fake is considered western propaganda / fake news, any Russian critics are labeled as western spies and are arrested. Putin is in power he doesn't need the consent of his citizens or the rest of the world he doesn't need facts or truth and can easily poison that well until no one can drink from it which is exactly what we are seeing with Putins holocaust claims.

megous 5y ago

Maybe if their news were independent. Holocaust: It happened mostly away from the cities, so that's likely how it would be happenig now, too. So if Russians wanted to reveal that that is happening, all that would need to happen was for them to send some scouts/spies/infiltrators to the locations where the mass extermination is happening and make a bunch of videos and publish them. There would be no need to shell and try to siege cities, shoot into civilians, etc. Instead of this, all we get is a ton of imagery of destroyed Ukranian cities, and killings of civilians. We can't maybe disprove the negative, but we don't need to. Russia needs to prove the positive.

dangerface 5y ago
Russia doesn't need to prove anything they just need to increase the noise to signal ratio to the point where proof and facts are irrelevant. Russia faked satellite pictures of a Ukraine fighter jet shooting down MH17. They are obvious fakes too the plane is missing Malaysia markings but any western news source that proves they are fake is considered western propaganda / fake news, any Russian critics are labeled as western spies and are arrested. Putin is in power he doesn't need the consent of his citizens or the rest of the world he doesn't need facts or truth and can easily poison that well until no one can drink from it which is exactly what we are seeing with Putins holocaust claims.