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I believe you missed an important point. > Our government friends at the NSA are equally guilty of that as well, I'm not seeing much outrage over that either.

I believe you missed an important point. > Our government friends at the NSA are equally guilty of that as well, I'm not seeing much outrage over that either. Not the same. In Russia the only cybercrime that goes to court is Russian on Russian crime. Crime against the west isn't a crime. Russians are allowed to write malware and defraud targets... just so long as those targets are not Russian. If I ripped off 10,000 Russian grandmothers as an American; the FBI would find me and prosecute me. > You're not more entitled to be in this space more than the next person regardless of your contribution, beliefs or identity. You probably typed your message on an Intel, AMD, or ARM CPU running on 95% American code. Russians are entitled to what the west decides to give them unless they want to do a better job themselves.

shabier 5y ago
> Russians are entitled to what the west decides to give them unless they want to do a better job themselves. Please get off your high horse, that's just disgusting. Yikes.
- seanw444 5y ago
  That's a very conversationally-bankrupt response.
foverzar 5y ago
> Not the same. In Russia the only cybercrime that goes to court is Russian on Russian crime. Crime against the west isn't a crime. Nonsense, that's not how it works. > Russians are allowed to write malware and defraud targets... just so long as those targets are not Russian. Nope. Article 273 of the Criminal Code. > If I ripped off 10,000 Russian grandmothers as an American; the FBI would find me and prosecute me. Unlikely. It seems like you are not entirely aware that we don't actually have functioning global anti-crybercrime mechanisms. If you think FBI would care what you do with Russian part of the internet, you are deluded. Try hosting something in Russia, you will quickly change your assumptions of the threat model. Really, it's surprising to see people on Hackernews who don't understand how infosec is a thing and why cybercrime actually works, when technology-wise everything should be more or less traceable.

shabier 5y ago

> Russians are entitled to what the west decides to give them unless they want to do a better job themselves. Please get off your high horse, that's just disgusting. Yikes.

seanw444 5y ago
That's a very conversationally-bankrupt response.

foverzar 5y ago

> Not the same. In Russia the only cybercrime that goes to court is Russian on Russian crime. Crime against the west isn't a crime. Nonsense, that's not how it works. > Russians are allowed to write malware and defraud targets... just so long as those targets are not Russian. Nope. Article 273 of the Criminal Code. > If I ripped off 10,000 Russian grandmothers as an American; the FBI would find me and prosecute me. Unlikely. It seems like you are not entirely aware that we don't actually have functioning global anti-crybercrime mechanisms. If you think FBI would care what you do with Russian part of the internet, you are deluded. Try hosting something in Russia, you will quickly change your assumptions of the threat model. Really, it's surprising to see people on Hackernews who don't understand how infosec is a thing and why cybercrime actually works, when technology-wise everything should be more or less traceable.