5 ms·

Russia has invaded Ukraine. It's like having a criminal break into your house. If my neighbours are unhappy with me taking action against that criminal - mayb

Russia has invaded Ukraine. It's like having a criminal break into your house. If my neighbours are unhappy with me taking action against that criminal - maybe they're friends with him - I'm not much inclined, in the situation, to have much sympathy.

jokethrowaway 5y ago
State actors, at some point, have all been criminals waging wars to further their goals using taxpayers' money. I hate all of them, but I wonder why wars in the middle east don't trigger sanctions and media attention and this invasion does.
- edgyquant 5y ago
  [flagged]
  - samstave 5y ago
    But perspective is not. Try to not throw "whataboutism" at something where perspective is key.
    - edgyquant 5y ago
      Perspective isnt key, it was a pure whataboutism
      - samstave 5y ago
        You are focusing on an event. I am talking in much larger scale. I hope that makes sense.
        edgyquant 5y ago
        No you are saying, “what about X tho,” which is a fallacy and a bad faith debate tactic. We aren’t talking about a larger scale, only you are, we are talking about Russias invasion of Ukraine.
        samstave 5y ago
        Remove "russians" "ukraine" from the topic. Explain to me how to navigate subjects 20 years from now.
        edgyquant 5y ago
        No, I won’t remove the literal topic of discussion from the topic being discussed. What the hell are you even playing at here? The topic is Russia and Ukraine, there is no way to remove them from it. This is exactly what I mean about you throwing out fallacies and being dishonest.
        samstave 5y ago
        I am 100% willing to be corrected. What should I know from your perspective... I concede.
- batty_alex 5y ago
  This one does because of Russia’s previous exploits in the area. Most notably, Holodomir: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor Ukrainians know what’s next, just like my ancestors did: genocide
drno123 5y ago
And United States have invaded Iraq, Afganistan and Lybia. Should all American citizens and companies be cut off the internet for that?

jokethrowaway 5y ago

State actors, at some point, have all been criminals waging wars to further their goals using taxpayers' money. I hate all of them, but I wonder why wars in the middle east don't trigger sanctions and media attention and this invasion does.

edgyquant 5y ago
[flagged]
- samstave 5y ago
  But perspective is not. Try to not throw "whataboutism" at something where perspective is key.
  - edgyquant 5y ago
    Perspective isnt key, it was a pure whataboutism
    - samstave 5y ago
      You are focusing on an event. I am talking in much larger scale. I hope that makes sense.
      - edgyquant 5y ago
        No you are saying, “what about X tho,” which is a fallacy and a bad faith debate tactic. We aren’t talking about a larger scale, only you are, we are talking about Russias invasion of Ukraine.
        samstave 5y ago
        Remove "russians" "ukraine" from the topic. Explain to me how to navigate subjects 20 years from now.
        edgyquant 5y ago
        No, I won’t remove the literal topic of discussion from the topic being discussed. What the hell are you even playing at here? The topic is Russia and Ukraine, there is no way to remove them from it. This is exactly what I mean about you throwing out fallacies and being dishonest.
        samstave 5y ago
        I am 100% willing to be corrected. What should I know from your perspective... I concede.
batty_alex 5y ago
This one does because of Russia’s previous exploits in the area. Most notably, Holodomir: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor Ukrainians know what’s next, just like my ancestors did: genocide

drno123 5y ago

And United States have invaded Iraq, Afganistan and Lybia. Should all American citizens and companies be cut off the internet for that?