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This mirrors so closely what someone else in my Indian circles said that I had to go through your comment history to check if you were him! The logical conclus

This mirrors so closely what someone else in my Indian circles said that I had to go through your comment history to check if you were him! The logical conclusion to what you're saying is: once a larger, more powerful nation (relatively speaking) decides to do a land grab, the target should surrender right away. Don't you think this will just embolden said large nation (and other slavering observers) so just do more of the same? Once Ukraine surrenders, what's to stop Russia from going after, say, Moldova? Or any of the non-NATO former Soviet nations really?

random_upvoter 5y ago
If I decide not to resist an invasion of a stronger military force out of concern for my personal safety and that of my family and friends, and I do not really consider the interests of Moldova. That's just another foreign nation, like Russia. If the Russian army arrives in Moldova, they too can make the decision whether to fight or to surrender. Incidentally, one million Ukranians have already voted with their feet on staying and fighting. The odds are that they will never see their home again. You have to pause and think about that. How is surrendering a worse outcome than abandoning your country to the invader?
- ceejayoz 5y ago
  > How is surrendering a worse outcome than abandoning your country to the invader? I suspect Jews who fled Europe during WWII might have a compelling answer to that question.
  - random_upvoter 5y ago
    The equation changes if you are invaded by a nation with a clear agenda of genocide. I don't think this is the case now.
    - ceejayoz 5y ago
      OK, so we've found one case. How about the non-genocidal Afghan war, where it's probably better being a resettled refugee in the West than having to sell your kidneys? https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/06/world/asia/selling-buying-kidneys-afghanistan.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/06/world/asia/selling-buying...

random_upvoter 5y ago

If I decide not to resist an invasion of a stronger military force out of concern for my personal safety and that of my family and friends, and I do not really consider the interests of Moldova. That's just another foreign nation, like Russia. If the Russian army arrives in Moldova, they too can make the decision whether to fight or to surrender. Incidentally, one million Ukranians have already voted with their feet on staying and fighting. The odds are that they will never see their home again. You have to pause and think about that. How is surrendering a worse outcome than abandoning your country to the invader?

ceejayoz 5y ago
> How is surrendering a worse outcome than abandoning your country to the invader? I suspect Jews who fled Europe during WWII might have a compelling answer to that question.
- random_upvoter 5y ago
  The equation changes if you are invaded by a nation with a clear agenda of genocide. I don't think this is the case now.
  - ceejayoz 5y ago
    OK, so we've found one case. How about the non-genocidal Afghan war, where it's probably better being a resettled refugee in the West than having to sell your kidneys? https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/06/world/asia/selling-buying-kidneys-afghanistan.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/06/world/asia/selling-buying...