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> It's interesting how the west has lost it's mind here Do you honestly think Putin will stop his conquest if he gets easy success in Ukraine?

by jusssi 5y ago

konart 5y ago
As a Russian: yes. What people seem to not understand is that Putin does not really a key figure here. Not the only key figure. The only reason he started the war is because he was assured by his generals that they can do the whole thing rather quickly. Putin does not do any information analysis, he does not use internet at all (his words, not mine). He only read repots presented to him in paper. So when he was giving the order he was sure that he's into an easy game. Gerasimov^1 on the other hand most likely knew what he was doing. At the same time Putin does likely realise that russian army is not capable agains NATO, not in an offensive scenario at least. He does not view at as a conquest for sure (at least as long as we are talking about the Russia vs West+Baltics. Can't say same thing about other former USSR republics) [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valery_Gerasimov https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valery_Gerasimov
- jusssi 5y ago
  So when the generals say, hey there's Finland, sitting there all by itself, right next to us. It'll take us two weeks, nice and clean. And Sweden's up next, we can get Ikea and Abba too. But we must hurry, in another month or two they might join Nato. Just sign here, mr president. Btw if what you're saying is true, then that's all the more reason to replace Putin with someone who's capable of keeping the military in check. They're never good masters.
  - konart 5y ago
    >So when the generals say, hey there's Finland, sitting there all by itself, right next to us. It'll take us two weeks, nice and clean. And Sweden's up next, we can get Ikea and Abba too. But we must hurry, in another month or two they might join Nato. Just sign here, mr president. Well, yes. This is simplification of course, but generally - yes. Obviously you have to keep cultural aspects in mind. Sweden going into NATO is bad but not as bad as Ukraine because Ukraine is basically part of Russia from Putins point of view. Them joining NATO or EU is like Chechnya going for independence (again) from Putin's\military point of view. They (someone) just decided to be proactive here.

> It's interesting how the west has lost it's mind here Do you honestly think Putin will stop his conquest if he gets easy success in Ukraine?

by jusssi 5y ago

> It's interesting how the west has lost it's mind here Do you honestly think Putin will stop his conquest if he gets easy success in Ukraine?

konart 5y ago

As a Russian: yes. What people seem to not understand is that Putin does not really a key figure here. Not the only key figure. The only reason he started the war is because he was assured by his generals that they can do the whole thing rather quickly. Putin does not do any information analysis, he does not use internet at all (his words, not mine). He only read repots presented to him in paper. So when he was giving the order he was sure that he's into an easy game. Gerasimov^1 on the other hand most likely knew what he was doing. At the same time Putin does likely realise that russian army is not capable agains NATO, not in an offensive scenario at least. He does not view at as a conquest for sure (at least as long as we are talking about the Russia vs West+Baltics. Can't say same thing about other former USSR republics) [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valery_Gerasimov https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valery_Gerasimov

jusssi 5y ago
So when the generals say, hey there's Finland, sitting there all by itself, right next to us. It'll take us two weeks, nice and clean. And Sweden's up next, we can get Ikea and Abba too. But we must hurry, in another month or two they might join Nato. Just sign here, mr president. Btw if what you're saying is true, then that's all the more reason to replace Putin with someone who's capable of keeping the military in check. They're never good masters.
- konart 5y ago
  >So when the generals say, hey there's Finland, sitting there all by itself, right next to us. It'll take us two weeks, nice and clean. And Sweden's up next, we can get Ikea and Abba too. But we must hurry, in another month or two they might join Nato. Just sign here, mr president. Well, yes. This is simplification of course, but generally - yes. Obviously you have to keep cultural aspects in mind. Sweden going into NATO is bad but not as bad as Ukraine because Ukraine is basically part of Russia from Putins point of view. Them joining NATO or EU is like Chechnya going for independence (again) from Putin's\military point of view. They (someone) just decided to be proactive here.