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I wonder if people at startups like ChartBeat, mix panel, clicky feel like the market is validated or feel worried. Or just keep focusing on doing a better job

I wonder if people at startups like ChartBeat, mix panel, clicky feel like the market is validated or feel worried. Or just keep focusing on doing a better job than competitors.

dangrossman 15y ago
I've been running W3Counter, a competing web stats service, since before Google Analytics. Before Google bought Urchin, that kind of web stats reporting was something businesses paid for. When Google released Analytics for free, I'm sure more than a few businesses were wiped out. Perception of the space changed forever and now I can't count on 1% of my users to pay for web stats, even for things GA doesn't provide. Real-time dashboards were one of the features people were willing to pay for. Now Google does that for free as well. There's not much I can do about it. I'm sure Chartbeat and such will still find customers, but I'm sure many that may have been convinced to buy will now settle for Google's free option instead. I don't think MixPanel's worried about it. They're not solving the same problems as Google Analytics and GA will never be a substitute for that kind of service.
- cooperadymas 15y ago
  Just do it better than Google does. Or target a specific niche. Not easy, I'm sure. But it can be done. Visual Website Optimizer, Optimizely, and UnBounce all run paid A/B testing sites in spite of Google's presence in the market.
  - jcampbell1 15y ago
    The examples provided are not relevant, because chartbeat also saw a hole in Google's offering, and filled it. That is exactly the same as all the sites you mentioned. The only difference is Google is now offering real time analytics. A counter example would be a service that provided a missing feature for a google product, that was later filled by google, but managed to survive after google launched the feature.
yahelc 15y ago
Honestly, I think they're probably feeling validated. GA is a 2000 pound gorilla, but this offering is very light compared to what some of the other dedicated Real Time Analytics providers give. It's possible they'll build it out further, but for now, GA Real Time probably wouldn't satisfy people who are already willing to pay for the high quality dedicated real time tools.
suhail 15y ago
Neither--We heavily plan to do what we did yesterday: keep our heads down and continue to work.
- MichaelApproved 15y ago
  Neither? Thats surprising. So what do you feel? This has got to affect you in some way. Just keeping your head down reminds me of an ostrich.

I wonder if people at startups like ChartBeat, mix panel, clicky feel like the market is validated or feel worried. Or just keep focusing on doing a better job than competitors.

dangrossman 15y ago

I've been running W3Counter, a competing web stats service, since before Google Analytics. Before Google bought Urchin, that kind of web stats reporting was something businesses paid for. When Google released Analytics for free, I'm sure more than a few businesses were wiped out. Perception of the space changed forever and now I can't count on 1% of my users to pay for web stats, even for things GA doesn't provide. Real-time dashboards were one of the features people were willing to pay for. Now Google does that for free as well. There's not much I can do about it. I'm sure Chartbeat and such will still find customers, but I'm sure many that may have been convinced to buy will now settle for Google's free option instead. I don't think MixPanel's worried about it. They're not solving the same problems as Google Analytics and GA will never be a substitute for that kind of service.

cooperadymas 15y ago
Just do it better than Google does. Or target a specific niche. Not easy, I'm sure. But it can be done. Visual Website Optimizer, Optimizely, and UnBounce all run paid A/B testing sites in spite of Google's presence in the market.
- jcampbell1 15y ago
  The examples provided are not relevant, because chartbeat also saw a hole in Google's offering, and filled it. That is exactly the same as all the sites you mentioned. The only difference is Google is now offering real time analytics. A counter example would be a service that provided a missing feature for a google product, that was later filled by google, but managed to survive after google launched the feature.

yahelc 15y ago

Honestly, I think they're probably feeling validated. GA is a 2000 pound gorilla, but this offering is very light compared to what some of the other dedicated Real Time Analytics providers give. It's possible they'll build it out further, but for now, GA Real Time probably wouldn't satisfy people who are already willing to pay for the high quality dedicated real time tools.

suhail 15y ago

Neither--We heavily plan to do what we did yesterday: keep our heads down and continue to work.

MichaelApproved 15y ago
Neither? Thats surprising. So what do you feel? This has got to affect you in some way. Just keeping your head down reminds me of an ostrich.