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> Is that a fair description of psyops - the information equivalent of more 'physical' tactics? Absolutely it is. From a historical perspective, the tactic has

> Is that a fair description of psyops - the information equivalent of more 'physical' tactics? Absolutely it is. From a historical perspective, the tactic has known many names: Psychological Warfare, Psychological Operations, Military Information Support Operations, etc. By definition, however, only 37-series (e.g. MOS 37F, MOS 37A) folks trained out at Ft. Bragg are able to conduct PsyOp. Political groups, private sector companies, etc. certainly conduct influence operations - sometimes at the direction of former PsyOp personnel - but there are legal distinctions and differences. It's one reason I enjoy limiting how much television I watch: advertisements are just watered-down influence operations with the goal of "spend money on X".

electriclizard 5y ago
>one reason I enjoy limiting how much television I watch Absolutely. I've no delusion that I can combat the manipulation. The best defense is to not absorb the data to begin with.
- Lascaille 5y ago
  >The best defense is to not absorb the data to begin with. The despair that can result from this is almost unimaginable though. When you separate yourself from the propaganda infrastructure then try to have conversations with people and at the slightest prompting they start vomiting talking points and a viewpoint that's purely based on propaganda... oh god, it's unbearable. And you can't call them stupid because they're not stupid they're just... outmatched by a professional force.
  - wolverine876 5y ago
    Indeed. The talking points really stand out. Especially from the reactionary side, they often have no other basis than 'this is what is being repeated'.
  - electriclizard 5y ago
    It's too true and so depressing. People can't stand up to the immense volumes of resources and hundreds (thousands?) of years of research these organizations are founded on. All my education has lead me to not participating being the best solution. Despair is a good word. I couldn't think of a better one to describe the dropping of emotion that I feel when I hear people repeat verbatim. Wish there were something we could do.

electriclizard 5y ago

>one reason I enjoy limiting how much television I watch Absolutely. I've no delusion that I can combat the manipulation. The best defense is to not absorb the data to begin with.

Lascaille 5y ago
>The best defense is to not absorb the data to begin with. The despair that can result from this is almost unimaginable though. When you separate yourself from the propaganda infrastructure then try to have conversations with people and at the slightest prompting they start vomiting talking points and a viewpoint that's purely based on propaganda... oh god, it's unbearable. And you can't call them stupid because they're not stupid they're just... outmatched by a professional force.
- wolverine876 5y ago
  Indeed. The talking points really stand out. Especially from the reactionary side, they often have no other basis than 'this is what is being repeated'.
- electriclizard 5y ago
  It's too true and so depressing. People can't stand up to the immense volumes of resources and hundreds (thousands?) of years of research these organizations are founded on. All my education has lead me to not participating being the best solution. Despair is a good word. I couldn't think of a better one to describe the dropping of emotion that I feel when I hear people repeat verbatim. Wish there were something we could do.