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China has been the world's superpower for the last 12 years.
by ProAm 5y ago
China has been the world's superpower for the last 12 years.
- ipaddr 5y agoWhy 12 years? By superpower what are you measuring to determine this?
- ProAm 5y agoThey are the most powerful and influential country on earth currently. America has economic inertia, but cannot win wars anymore with the most well funded and technically advanced military, and they no longer make things (largely). They had a good run but this is sunset for USA and sunrise for China (which started decades ago but I feel matured after the last fiscal crisis the US had in the late 2000's. America won't be over tomorrow, just like the Britain wasn't forgotten overnight after they lost their global superpower status 100 years ago.
- ipaddr 5y agoAre they the most influential country? Their media exports are extremely small and their cultural influence doesn't extend globally. They don't gather respect by creating peace, they don't gather respect through charity. Militarily they are not the most advance or spend to that level. China isn't the largest economy yet. They say they could overtake the US by 2030
- ProAm 5y ago> Are they the most influential country? I believe they are in terms of economy, supply chain, economic future growth. > China isn't the largest economy yet. Personally I think this is done deal and just a matter of time, like global warming, its not complete, but clearly on the path.
- pixl97 5y agoUS can win 'wars' just fine. In mere days we wipe every piece of hardware a country has off the map. We cannot win occupations and the police actions we commit to because the win condition is not a military one.
- ProAm 5y agoWe've lost every war since Korea. The first Gulf war could be considered a win except for the fact we went back 12 years later and lost.
- School-Cotton 5y agoThe US can and does still win wars. It won the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan handily. What it’s not able to do is turn conquered countries into stable liberal democracies, but I doubt anyone can do that.
- ProAm 5y agoWe lost both Iraq and Afganistan, I dont know why you think we won either of those wars?
- ipaddr 5y agoIn Iraq leadership was killed democracy installed and oil wells secured. Enemy turned into an ally. In Afganistan the country was occupied, Bin Laden went into hiding and then killed. Both wars were won and objectives met.
- ProAm 5y ago> In Afganistan the country was occupied, Bin Laden went into hiding and then killed. They are still occupied and Bin Laden was killed a decade ago, 2011 and nothing has changed in the country. What was the purpose for the war? I agree Bin Laden had a death sentence but he wasnt even in Afghanistan when he died, and then we stayed for 10 more years doing nothing. The US lost this war, negotiated retreat with the Taliban and they took the country back in a matter of weeks. > In Iraq leadership was killed democracy installed and oil wells secured. Enemy turned into an ally. Democracy is installed? Is it our oil now? Were there WMD's (the pretense for the entire war, based on the impressive intelligence capability of the US?). We lost this one too.
- alar44 5y agoBy your definition maybe, but no one cares about that.
- likeclockwork 5y agoThe wars had no win condition.
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