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Theres actually some evidence (or a least a lot of pubmed papers) that touch on how for certain at risk populations, meditation can increase the probability of

Theres actually some evidence (or a least a lot of pubmed papers) that touch on how for certain at risk populations, meditation can increase the probability of an episode of psychosis! (so anyone who has any family history of schizophrenia or other things in the same space, really need to be careful of meditation and friends) see these google scholar results for more info: https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=meditation+and+psychosis&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=meditation+and+psychosi...

mistrial9 5y ago
I believe that ' family history of schizophrenia ' is not fully understood.. there is an interrelated system of health, genetics, aging, stress, nutrition and extreme experiences, which can go many ways.. I believe that 'schizophrenia' is real and serious, but that the factors involved in leading to it, and its treatments, are not fully understood.. with that said, I believe there is science evidence that marijuana and meditation, both can be triggering to an ill mental state.. along with other, stronger things of course.. common street methamphetamine can bring on illness rather quickly and is addictive.. serious personal injury like trauma can bring on illness rather quickly.. things like that..
- kayodelycaon 5y ago
  Both schizophrenia and bipolar disorder are highly correlated with family history. There is a clear connection something genetic causes them. What that is… we don’t know. Fortunately, we don’t need exact answers to do science. :) Psychiatry (and therapy) is far more advanced that it was just a few decades ago. It’s incredible we are where we are today. American culture is starting to accept and talk about mental health. Where will we be in another 30 years? :)
joshcsimmons 5y ago
Wow - thanks for posting. Had seem some brief research about it before but not this much. This really should be a larger part of the cultural conversation around meditation.
oh_sigh 5y ago
The first link is a single male patient who claims meditation provoked his psychosis. Other people suffering from psychosis have blamed, lets see, off the top of my head - wifi signals, chemtrails, their gang stalkers, fluoride, the CIA, aliens, lizard-men, etc. Is there any reason to believe a random psychotic person when they make a claim about meditation, versus when they make the claim about wifi signals? The case analysis a few results later find a total of 28 people in the literature who have made the claim, with 14 of them having precipitating factors such as "like insomnia, lack of food intake, history of mental illness, stress, and psychoactive substance use", which almost certainly have a much larger effect on psychosis than...sitting still and thinking a certain way. If I had a heart attack while meditating, I don't think I would jump to the conclusion that meditation is dangerous for people with heart conditions.
- james-redwood 5y ago
  Agreed. It’s a weak result.
  - naasking 5y ago
    These are hardly the only reports. You can train your body too hard and injure yourself. It stands to reason that you can do something similar to your brain.

mistrial9 5y ago

I believe that ' family history of schizophrenia ' is not fully understood.. there is an interrelated system of health, genetics, aging, stress, nutrition and extreme experiences, which can go many ways.. I believe that 'schizophrenia' is real and serious, but that the factors involved in leading to it, and its treatments, are not fully understood.. with that said, I believe there is science evidence that marijuana and meditation, both can be triggering to an ill mental state.. along with other, stronger things of course.. common street methamphetamine can bring on illness rather quickly and is addictive.. serious personal injury like trauma can bring on illness rather quickly.. things like that..

kayodelycaon 5y ago
Both schizophrenia and bipolar disorder are highly correlated with family history. There is a clear connection something genetic causes them. What that is… we don’t know. Fortunately, we don’t need exact answers to do science. :) Psychiatry (and therapy) is far more advanced that it was just a few decades ago. It’s incredible we are where we are today. American culture is starting to accept and talk about mental health. Where will we be in another 30 years? :)

joshcsimmons 5y ago

Wow - thanks for posting. Had seem some brief research about it before but not this much. This really should be a larger part of the cultural conversation around meditation.

oh_sigh 5y ago

The first link is a single male patient who claims meditation provoked his psychosis. Other people suffering from psychosis have blamed, lets see, off the top of my head - wifi signals, chemtrails, their gang stalkers, fluoride, the CIA, aliens, lizard-men, etc. Is there any reason to believe a random psychotic person when they make a claim about meditation, versus when they make the claim about wifi signals? The case analysis a few results later find a total of 28 people in the literature who have made the claim, with 14 of them having precipitating factors such as "like insomnia, lack of food intake, history of mental illness, stress, and psychoactive substance use", which almost certainly have a much larger effect on psychosis than...sitting still and thinking a certain way. If I had a heart attack while meditating, I don't think I would jump to the conclusion that meditation is dangerous for people with heart conditions.

james-redwood 5y ago
Agreed. It’s a weak result.
- naasking 5y ago
  These are hardly the only reports. You can train your body too hard and injure yourself. It stands to reason that you can do something similar to your brain.