> the JetBrains products pretty much demolishes the argument that Java has declined and fallen on the desktop. JetBrains is an existence proof that it is a very

> the JetBrains products pretty much demolishes the argument that Java has declined and fallen on the desktop. JetBrains is an existence proof that it is a very capable platform Your counterpoint doesn't apply to the article because the author's use of "decline & fall" is about market share and dev mindshare and not about any declining technical capabilities. (Notice that the author already agreed with you about Java's capable platform when he wrote: "Despite the ominous tone of this article’s title, I believe that Java is a compelling platform for modern desktop applications.") Jetbrains releasing new products doesn't change the fact Java lost popularity as a tool for desktop apps in comparison to its 1995 hype. Even during Java's late 1990s peak hype cycle, its usage for desktop apps was never adopted by programmers to the same degree as Electron/Javascript is today.