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What about the attempts on Kyiv and shelling of Lviv? Didn't Putin say that he wanted to "denazify" all of Ukraine in his opening declaration, not just LNR/DNS?

by csee 5y ago

tguvot 5y ago
absolutely nothing. nada. zero. it's full blown 1984. everybody who says word war instead of "special military operation" is taken off air (they shut down two major radio stations). they are going to make televised school lesson explaining to kids purpose of operation is to keep republics safe (they also sent upfront documents showing how things must be explained to children) duma supposed to make law tomorrow that spreading misinformation about "operation" is an offence. use google translate to browse those ru domains : ria lenta gazeta
- csee 5y ago
  So, suppose that Putin does capture all of eastern Ukraine. How does he plan to announce it to the population? "Surprise! it wasn't actually just LNR/DNS!"?
  - tguvot 5y ago
    "They overthrew their nazi juna and surrendered". The official propoganda states that ukranian army doesn't fight, only nazi batallions. also nazi's execute ukranian military personal that refuses to fight. there is an article about this on ria Also this was published on 26th and purged https://web.archive.org/web/20220226224717/https://ria.ru/20220226/rossiya-1775162336.html https://web.archive.org/web/20220226224717/https://ria.ru/20...
    - csee 5y ago
      Do you think Putin wants to find a negotiated solution right now, or he's still all-in on the outcome?
      - tguvot 5y ago
        i think all intelligence agencies trying to figure it out. yet.. on one side there been a bit softening with regards to what russia demands from Ukraine, according to russian media. For example that started to loudly demand today that Ukraine will declare to be non-nuclear country. They didn't demand it before so if Ukraine agrees to it (it never tried to do it anyway) it will be a win for internal consumption. On the other side their economy is crumbling. They are in conflict with everybody. On 4th there is supposed to be joint session of parliament and there are assumption that will be announced either mobilization or martial law/state of war/something.

What about the attempts on Kyiv and shelling of Lviv? Didn't Putin say that he wanted to "denazify" all of Ukraine in his opening declaration, not just LNR/DNS?

by csee 5y ago

What about the attempts on Kyiv and shelling of Lviv? Didn't Putin say that he wanted to "denazify" all of Ukraine in his opening declaration, not just LNR/DNS?

tguvot 5y ago

absolutely nothing. nada. zero. it's full blown 1984. everybody who says word war instead of "special military operation" is taken off air (they shut down two major radio stations). they are going to make televised school lesson explaining to kids purpose of operation is to keep republics safe (they also sent upfront documents showing how things must be explained to children) duma supposed to make law tomorrow that spreading misinformation about "operation" is an offence. use google translate to browse those ru domains : ria lenta gazeta

csee 5y ago
So, suppose that Putin does capture all of eastern Ukraine. How does he plan to announce it to the population? "Surprise! it wasn't actually just LNR/DNS!"?
- tguvot 5y ago
  "They overthrew their nazi juna and surrendered". The official propoganda states that ukranian army doesn't fight, only nazi batallions. also nazi's execute ukranian military personal that refuses to fight. there is an article about this on ria Also this was published on 26th and purged https://web.archive.org/web/20220226224717/https://ria.ru/20220226/rossiya-1775162336.html https://web.archive.org/web/20220226224717/https://ria.ru/20...
  - csee 5y ago
    Do you think Putin wants to find a negotiated solution right now, or he's still all-in on the outcome?
    - tguvot 5y ago
      i think all intelligence agencies trying to figure it out. yet.. on one side there been a bit softening with regards to what russia demands from Ukraine, according to russian media. For example that started to loudly demand today that Ukraine will declare to be non-nuclear country. They didn't demand it before so if Ukraine agrees to it (it never tried to do it anyway) it will be a win for internal consumption. On the other side their economy is crumbling. They are in conflict with everybody. On 4th there is supposed to be joint session of parliament and there are assumption that will be announced either mobilization or martial law/state of war/something.