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I used to love Java. Although I think they ruined it with the concept of "Enterprise Java" which only complicating how they were delivering the software. Many
by makach 5y ago
I used to love Java. Although I think they ruined it with the concept of "Enterprise Java" which only complicating how they were delivering the software. Many good things came out of this work that has been ported to many other frameworks (although, not with the enterprise branding)
Java is not slow, I use a couple of high quality desktop applications and these will most likely have a future as long as the language is developed. These are not slow apps. Bad developers make bad software regardless of language.
One of the main things that I always struggled with was the IDE of java. Buggy, slow and overly complicated. I saddens me profoundly that java lost its "je ne sais quoi"
- mikro2nd 5y agoEnterprise Java was almost entirely an IBM creation. IBM had a whole bunch of code that had no real path to money (San Francisco framework with roots back to Taligent). Sun was headed into a firefight with MS; they knew it and knew that they didn't have the resources to go it alone: Sun needed a Gorilla partner. And so a deal was struck and the world was lumbered with the dumpster-fire that was J2EE, against which Spring Framework was a logical (maybe even sensible at the time) reaction but which ended up becoming it's very own brand of behemothic monster.
- kaba0 5y agoWhich IDE do you mean? Also, fortunately java really doesn’t have to be written in EnterpriseTM way, hell, the language designers actually agree on this one not making properties and the like native, but instead choosing records.
- cableshaft 5y agoYeah, I used to make some simple games for Java, like for J2ME, and for that it was a pretty good experience. But then I had to use enterprise Java for work and while I could use it, it was such an overcomplicated mess I stopped wanting to use it. I much prefer C#/.Net.