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Of course Rudy isn't going to be a popular person on a tech board: “And from the earth will well up terrible creations of beings who in their character stand b

Of course Rudy isn't going to be a popular person on a tech board: “And from the earth will well up terrible creations of beings who in their character stand between the mineral kingdom and the plant kingdom as automative beings with a super-natural intellect, an immense intellect. When this development takes hold, the earth will be covered, as with a web, a web of terrible spiders, spiders of enormous wisdom, which however, in their organisation don’t even reach the plant status. Terrible spiders which will interlock with each other, which will imitate in their movements all that which humanity has thought of with their shadowlike intellect that was not inspired by a new imagination, through that which is to come through Spiritual Science. All man’s thoughts of this kind, which are unreal, will come alive. The earth will be covered with terrible mineral-plant like spiders, which will link up with empathy but evil intention.” - R. Steiner, 13 May 1921

Dracophoenix 5y ago
It sounds like a description of the Internet.
- georgia_peach 5y ago
  This part is evocative of AI for me: > will imitate in their movements all that which humanity has thought of with their shadowlike intellect that was not inspired by a new imagination
smegsicle 5y ago
unpopular? i would counter that anyone who understands technology and doesn't consider it to be inherently slightly evil, probably doesn't believe that evil exists, at least in the traditional sense.
- croes 5y ago
  Still no reason to follow the austrian version of L. Ron Hubbard "Rudolf Steiner believed that illnesses have their meaning in karmic events. Fever, for example, could help children to settle into their bodies. Those who had done things wrong in previous lives might have to make up for them through illness - and those who inoculate themselves could become deaf to the karmic message."
  - georgia_peach 5y ago
    Why beat on Rudy for karma? I think your beef here is with every religion of the East.
    - bencollier49 5y ago
      The same argument could be made against imprisoning serial killers.
    - croes 5y ago
      My beef is with people that make measle parties because they think it's good for children go through an illness. With people that say I don't need vaccines I have a immune system.
      - georgia_peach 5y ago
        “...I have told you that the spirits of darkness are going to inspire their human hosts, in whom they will be dwelling, to find a vaccine that will drive all inclination toward spirituality out of people’s souls when they are still very young, and this will happen in a roundabout way through the living body. Today, bodies are vaccinated against one thing and another; in future, children will be vaccinated with a substance which it will certainly be possible to produce, and this will make them immune, so that they do not develop foolish inclinations connected with spiritual life – ‘foolish’ here, of course, in the eyes of materialists." - R. Steiner, 27 October 1917 Safe and EFFECTIVE!
        croes 5y ago
        Sounds like Scientology
        EVdotIO 5y ago
        No, it's not. Having grown up in it, this is a very general gist: Being out ethics, connected with an SP, and probably a few other situation will manifest itself as injury. There isn't really a concept of "sin", just what's best for survival, and the aforementioned actions simply have consequences which endanger yourself and others. Let's put it this way, yes, people try to audit out cancer and there is an antivax cohort (this is more about external control, distrust of authority outside of Scientology, causing autism, your usual suspects), but it's not necessarily against modern medicine in most ways (obviously a carve out for all things psychiatric). Once that cancer gets into oh shit territory, they are on chemo, and often times too late, but that's a different discussion.
servytor 5y ago
A kingdom of spiders, reminds me of "Deepness in the Sky". I will always think about how cool it is that space-arachnids, led by Sherkaner Underhill, managed to outsmart the 'Focused' Emergents.
- samplatt 5y ago
  ....I'm really going to have to read that again. I don't remember that at ALL.
mro_name 5y ago
not to mention Ivan Illich https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Illich https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Illich
- georgia_peach 5y ago
  I love him so much!

Dracophoenix 5y ago

It sounds like a description of the Internet.

georgia_peach 5y ago
This part is evocative of AI for me: > will imitate in their movements all that which humanity has thought of with their shadowlike intellect that was not inspired by a new imagination

smegsicle 5y ago

unpopular? i would counter that anyone who understands technology and doesn't consider it to be inherently slightly evil, probably doesn't believe that evil exists, at least in the traditional sense.

croes 5y ago
Still no reason to follow the austrian version of L. Ron Hubbard "Rudolf Steiner believed that illnesses have their meaning in karmic events. Fever, for example, could help children to settle into their bodies. Those who had done things wrong in previous lives might have to make up for them through illness - and those who inoculate themselves could become deaf to the karmic message."
- georgia_peach 5y ago
  Why beat on Rudy for karma? I think your beef here is with every religion of the East.
  - bencollier49 5y ago
    The same argument could be made against imprisoning serial killers.
  - croes 5y ago
    My beef is with people that make measle parties because they think it's good for children go through an illness. With people that say I don't need vaccines I have a immune system.
    - georgia_peach 5y ago
      “...I have told you that the spirits of darkness are going to inspire their human hosts, in whom they will be dwelling, to find a vaccine that will drive all inclination toward spirituality out of people’s souls when they are still very young, and this will happen in a roundabout way through the living body. Today, bodies are vaccinated against one thing and another; in future, children will be vaccinated with a substance which it will certainly be possible to produce, and this will make them immune, so that they do not develop foolish inclinations connected with spiritual life – ‘foolish’ here, of course, in the eyes of materialists." - R. Steiner, 27 October 1917 Safe and EFFECTIVE!
      - croes 5y ago
        Sounds like Scientology
        EVdotIO 5y ago
        No, it's not. Having grown up in it, this is a very general gist: Being out ethics, connected with an SP, and probably a few other situation will manifest itself as injury. There isn't really a concept of "sin", just what's best for survival, and the aforementioned actions simply have consequences which endanger yourself and others. Let's put it this way, yes, people try to audit out cancer and there is an antivax cohort (this is more about external control, distrust of authority outside of Scientology, causing autism, your usual suspects), but it's not necessarily against modern medicine in most ways (obviously a carve out for all things psychiatric). Once that cancer gets into oh shit territory, they are on chemo, and often times too late, but that's a different discussion.

servytor 5y ago

A kingdom of spiders, reminds me of "Deepness in the Sky". I will always think about how cool it is that space-arachnids, led by Sherkaner Underhill, managed to outsmart the 'Focused' Emergents.

samplatt 5y ago
....I'm really going to have to read that again. I don't remember that at ALL.

mro_name 5y ago

not to mention Ivan Illich https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Illich https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Illich

georgia_peach 5y ago
I love him so much!