> This entire conflict could of been avoided if we didn't keep trying to expand NATO. This is really not a good take. Ukrainians didn't overthrow their governm

> This entire conflict could of been avoided if we didn't keep trying to expand NATO. This is really not a good take. Ukrainians didn't overthrow their government because of NATO expansion. They overthrew their government because it was a corrupt pile of shit that didn't credibly represent their interests. And make no mistake, Putin has always seen Ukraine as in integral and inseparable part of Russian culture. He was never going to allow them to govern themselves, NATO expansion or not.