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Yeah, I was under the impression pre-Ukraine that Russia was an "nth generation" fighter supplier, and therefore should have air superiority almost by default.
by AtlasBarfed 5y ago
Yeah, I was under the impression pre-Ukraine that Russia was an "nth generation" fighter supplier, and therefore should have air superiority almost by default.
I was corrected that nobody seems to buy Russia's offerings, and those that were made are basically for show and not in mass production.
I also realized that air superiority, as in expensive jets attacking from distance and altitude, might not matter if the enemy has cheap effective drones.
If the drone loss rate and replacement is cheaper than the flight hours cost of the ultraexpensive fighter jet, and if they can throw 100 drones at a battlefield and the best you can do is shoot down 10 of them with your ultraexpensive fighter jets... uhoh. Even if you "own" the skies, you don't have ground-air superiority.
Yes you can bomb static targets with impunity, but your ground forces are essentially unsupported, and if the enemy is infantry with portable missiles and drones with missiles... uhoh.
- ProjectArcturis 5y agoUkraine only has about 20 drones, and they are optimized for air to surface strikes, not air-to-air combat. Drones are much cheaper than fighter jets but they're not cheap enough for Ukraine to mass-produce (or purchase) them in the thousands.
- older 5y agoI don't think anyone who've seen Russian made Lada would dare to buy Russian made fighter jets.
- SyzygistSix 5y agoBy that metric everyone should be buying Japanese fighter jets. The US was making kick-ass fighter jets at what might be the nadir of the US car industry. Then again, Russian cars do indeed represent an all-time low.