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> how could it be worse? I'm honestly not sure if it was or not, even yet. By showing us that it is all lies by lying about literally everything, we will becom

> how could it be worse? I'm honestly not sure if it was or not, even yet. By showing us that it is all lies by lying about literally everything, we will become wiser? By demonstrating that our democracy is weak by attempting to topple it, we will become stronger? It sounds like some kind of Tough Love dream. I don't care for it, though, I think draining the swamp is an admirable idea so long as filling it back up with the sewer isn't the second part of that plan. I'm not convinced the path to a better country requires that we destroy it first.

consumer451 5y ago
One of the dumbed-down lessons I had re-solidified over those years and choices is that change is not always good. Which I now realize is a bit ironic, considering who I learned it from.
- kbenson 5y ago
  I subscribe to the idea that people become more conservative as they get older because they've seen all the times change has resulted in worse outcomes, and have lost faith that change will result in something better, so would rather stick with what they know and have spent decades learning to work with than mix it up some more. Life beating pessimism into people until they are jaded. On the flip side, you have the young who are optimistic enough to think that things will only get better because so many people are hoping to make things better, and with that backing how could it get worse? This progression might be greater or lesser in some people, or even go in reverse. Regardless, I suspect somewhere in the middle of this is where we usually should be. Where people want change but are cautious because they've seen good intentions backfire and movements be subverted, but also when they haven't become so jaded as to not want change for the sake of not having to deal with it anymore, even when it's important issues that help a lot of people. That I view myself at where I describe as a good spot in this progression is probably informed by a non-negligible amount of subconscious bias on my part.

consumer451 5y ago

One of the dumbed-down lessons I had re-solidified over those years and choices is that change is not always good. Which I now realize is a bit ironic, considering who I learned it from.

kbenson 5y ago
I subscribe to the idea that people become more conservative as they get older because they've seen all the times change has resulted in worse outcomes, and have lost faith that change will result in something better, so would rather stick with what they know and have spent decades learning to work with than mix it up some more. Life beating pessimism into people until they are jaded. On the flip side, you have the young who are optimistic enough to think that things will only get better because so many people are hoping to make things better, and with that backing how could it get worse? This progression might be greater or lesser in some people, or even go in reverse. Regardless, I suspect somewhere in the middle of this is where we usually should be. Where people want change but are cautious because they've seen good intentions backfire and movements be subverted, but also when they haven't become so jaded as to not want change for the sake of not having to deal with it anymore, even when it's important issues that help a lot of people. That I view myself at where I describe as a good spot in this progression is probably informed by a non-negligible amount of subconscious bias on my part.