From back then... the news article: https://www.npr.org/2016/05/09/477339063/conservative-author-pj-orourke-reluctantly-backs-clinton https://www.npr.org/2016/

From back then... the news article: https://www.npr.org/2016/05/09/477339063/conservative-author-pj-orourke-reluctantly-backs-clinton https://www.npr.org/2016/05/09/477339063/conservative-author... the episode: https://www.npr.org/2016/05/07/477085149/whos-bill-this-time https://www.npr.org/2016/05/07/477085149/whos-bill-this-time - its about 3 minutes in.