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Of course I wouldn't want to find out but does Russia really have the capacity to threaten anyone else with war at the moment? Before the invasion they amassaed

by yread 5y ago

Of course I wouldn't want to find out but does Russia really have the capacity to threaten anyone else with war at the moment? Before the invasion they amassaed 70% of their army next to Ukraine and the US say (and why would they lie) that they have committed 80% of them. Not to mention that it's not going exactly according to plan there with probably thousands of russian casualties...

dgut 5y ago
They can't win a war but they can end the world as we know it. Lavrov said WW3 will be nuclear. https://www.reuters.com/world/russias-lavrov-says-third-world-war-would-be-nuclear-destructive-ria-2022-03-02/ https://www.reuters.com/world/russias-lavrov-says-third-worl...
- anonAndOn 5y ago
  Change the world, yes. End it, no. If the Ukraine invasion is any indication of the might of Russia's military, it has demonstrated that Russia's might is largely tanks and mobile missile launchers. The US has assets in the air, on the ground and off the coast of Russia right now that are ready to redefine the meaning of "shock and awe" at the first sign of nuclear use. Putin has one chance to get his missiles off the ground before complete annihilation in a matter of minutes.
  - ASalazarMX 5y ago
    A little too optimist saying USA can stop thousands of nuclear launches at the same time, not even accounting for nuclear subs. Once a massive nuclear attack starts, the only options are massively launching back, or not answering and hoping for the best, both for your country and the planet.
    - anonAndOn 5y ago
      From what I've seen so far in this invasion, it appears the Russian military is as rotten as its leadership. Where are the fearsome Russian assets, the stealth bombers, the laser guided missiles, etc? They can't even control Ukraine's airspace. No, I don't think the optimism is unfounded.
  - dgut 5y ago
    I hope you are right but I'm not so optimistic. Even if 1% of Russian nukes make it, that would be a total disaster.
an9n 5y ago
> the US say (and why would they lie) you're not serious?
- ASalazarMX 5y ago
  The Russian propaganda machine was crippled from the start, so we are only being exposed to the Western and Ukrainian propaganda machines. We should take every news with a minimum of skepticism.
wongarsu 5y ago
Not with boots on the ground, but there are more ways to wage war, especially if the goal is revenge instead of occupation. - They might have cyberwarfare capabilities they are not using against Ukraine, or have spies in place that can sabotage critical infrastructure. - Their Avangard hypersonic glide vehicles can reportedly be equipped with conventional warheads (even though Russia probably only has a handful of them) - They might think they can get away with limited nuclear strikes against non-NATO nations (unlikely, even if it doesn't start WWIII there would be no coming back from the resulting sanctions) Of course if they do any of that they have to defend against counterattacks, but defending their territory is what the Russian army is best equipped to do.

by yread 5y ago

dgut 5y ago

They can't win a war but they can end the world as we know it. Lavrov said WW3 will be nuclear. https://www.reuters.com/world/russias-lavrov-says-third-world-war-would-be-nuclear-destructive-ria-2022-03-02/ https://www.reuters.com/world/russias-lavrov-says-third-worl...

anonAndOn 5y ago
Change the world, yes. End it, no. If the Ukraine invasion is any indication of the might of Russia's military, it has demonstrated that Russia's might is largely tanks and mobile missile launchers. The US has assets in the air, on the ground and off the coast of Russia right now that are ready to redefine the meaning of "shock and awe" at the first sign of nuclear use. Putin has one chance to get his missiles off the ground before complete annihilation in a matter of minutes.
- ASalazarMX 5y ago
  A little too optimist saying USA can stop thousands of nuclear launches at the same time, not even accounting for nuclear subs. Once a massive nuclear attack starts, the only options are massively launching back, or not answering and hoping for the best, both for your country and the planet.
  - anonAndOn 5y ago
    From what I've seen so far in this invasion, it appears the Russian military is as rotten as its leadership. Where are the fearsome Russian assets, the stealth bombers, the laser guided missiles, etc? They can't even control Ukraine's airspace. No, I don't think the optimism is unfounded.
- dgut 5y ago
  I hope you are right but I'm not so optimistic. Even if 1% of Russian nukes make it, that would be a total disaster.

an9n 5y ago

> the US say (and why would they lie) you're not serious?

ASalazarMX 5y ago
The Russian propaganda machine was crippled from the start, so we are only being exposed to the Western and Ukrainian propaganda machines. We should take every news with a minimum of skepticism.

wongarsu 5y ago

Not with boots on the ground, but there are more ways to wage war, especially if the goal is revenge instead of occupation. - They might have cyberwarfare capabilities they are not using against Ukraine, or have spies in place that can sabotage critical infrastructure. - Their Avangard hypersonic glide vehicles can reportedly be equipped with conventional warheads (even though Russia probably only has a handful of them) - They might think they can get away with limited nuclear strikes against non-NATO nations (unlikely, even if it doesn't start WWIII there would be no coming back from the resulting sanctions) Of course if they do any of that they have to defend against counterattacks, but defending their territory is what the Russian army is best equipped to do.