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I respect that they have reasons not to release Kreya as open source. Fine. But claiming "We love open source" is a blatant lie: the article makes it really c

by q-big 5y ago

I respect that they have reasons not to release Kreya as open source. Fine. But claiming "We love open source" is a blatant lie: the article makes it really clear that they only love the aspects of open source that are to their advantage. They should better honestly write this.

aluminussoma 5y ago
Come on, that is being being pedantic about semantics. They do not need to be all-in with open source to like it/love it/appreciate it.
- AshamedCaptain 5y ago
  No, it's not: the point is that they're basically saying "we love it as long as it's someone else who loses potential profits, not us". This is kind of a significant, and not a semantic minor detail. If one believes that open source something can lead to a loss of profits, then one must believe also that the open source software they have likely used has already made that sacrifice. It's easy to appreciate the sacrifice of others but then fail to make it oneself.
  - sinuhe69 5y ago
    Or the authors of the OS projects didn’t intend to earn money with it at all. Which can be perfectly the case!
- smoldesu 5y ago
  "We love all-you-can-eat buffets, just not the part where you pay for it (so we climb through the window of our local Golden Corral to make our getaway)"
  - giraffe_lady 5y ago
    "I love all you can eat buffets but today I'm not really that hungry and it throws off the balance of cost to result so I think I'll just get a sandwich." This metaphor is alright for this actually.
kazinator 5y ago
Are you allowed to say you love open source or free software if you earn a salary for a company that makes proprietary tech?
- kstrauser 5y ago
  Yes.
oh_sigh 5y ago
Do you practice unconditional love? Among the people you love in your life...is there not a single aspect or behavior they exhibit that maybe annoys you a little bit or you wish was different?
- ertian 5y ago
  "I love you, and I love it when you do favors for me...but I don't love you quite enough to return the favors." Everybody loves benefiting from free software. Who wouldn't? But if you aren't willing to contribute, then it probably isn't worth mentioning. All you're saying is "We love getting free stuff".
  - remram 5y ago
    They don't seem to be unwilling to contribute, they just can't take the risk with their sole core product. They did release Mapperly as Apache-2.0, but to you that means nothing unless they open everything?
dewey 5y ago
Loving open source doesn't mean you have to open source every piece of code you write in your company. They open sourced some projects already. It could also just mean supporting projects financially, with developer time or filing issues.

by q-big 5y ago

aluminussoma 5y ago

Come on, that is being being pedantic about semantics. They do not need to be all-in with open source to like it/love it/appreciate it.

AshamedCaptain 5y ago
No, it's not: the point is that they're basically saying "we love it as long as it's someone else who loses potential profits, not us". This is kind of a significant, and not a semantic minor detail. If one believes that open source something can lead to a loss of profits, then one must believe also that the open source software they have likely used has already made that sacrifice. It's easy to appreciate the sacrifice of others but then fail to make it oneself.
- sinuhe69 5y ago
  Or the authors of the OS projects didn’t intend to earn money with it at all. Which can be perfectly the case!
smoldesu 5y ago
"We love all-you-can-eat buffets, just not the part where you pay for it (so we climb through the window of our local Golden Corral to make our getaway)"
- giraffe_lady 5y ago
  "I love all you can eat buffets but today I'm not really that hungry and it throws off the balance of cost to result so I think I'll just get a sandwich." This metaphor is alright for this actually.

kazinator 5y ago

Are you allowed to say you love open source or free software if you earn a salary for a company that makes proprietary tech?

kstrauser 5y ago
Yes.

oh_sigh 5y ago

Do you practice unconditional love? Among the people you love in your life...is there not a single aspect or behavior they exhibit that maybe annoys you a little bit or you wish was different?

ertian 5y ago
"I love you, and I love it when you do favors for me...but I don't love you quite enough to return the favors." Everybody loves benefiting from free software. Who wouldn't? But if you aren't willing to contribute, then it probably isn't worth mentioning. All you're saying is "We love getting free stuff".
- remram 5y ago
  They don't seem to be unwilling to contribute, they just can't take the risk with their sole core product. They did release Mapperly as Apache-2.0, but to you that means nothing unless they open everything?

dewey 5y ago

Loving open source doesn't mean you have to open source every piece of code you write in your company. They open sourced some projects already. It could also just mean supporting projects financially, with developer time or filing issues.