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But you are not uneducated peasants from the past either. Seize control of your own country - not by peaceful convoy protest but by blockading Kremlin and escal

But you are not uneducated peasants from the past either. Seize control of your own country - not by peaceful convoy protest but by blockading Kremlin and escalating violence until Putin and cronies are sent to gulags. Pretty much ALL major developed western countries went through such revolutions to earn their freedom. It is time for you to go get it.

gopiandcode 5y ago
> Pretty much ALL major developed western country went through such revolutions to earn their freedom. It is time for you to go get it. You realise that you're asking innocent people to risk violence and potentially even give up their lives, to protest an invasion by a despot that they had little opportunity to oppose right? It's pretty easy to take credit for the bravery and fortitude that your predecessors had to bring about their revolutions from the comfort of your first-world home at little to no risk to yourself. Honestly, this seems like the most out of touch call to action that I've ever heard. Also, it only starts to feel even more hypocritical when you realise that there have been several anti-war protests going on in Russia, for which the participants faced brutal violence at the hands of the state.
- nine_zeros 5y ago
  > You realise that you're asking innocent people to risk violence and potentially even give up their lives, to protest an invasion by a despot that they had little opportunity to oppose right? It's pretty easy to take credit for the bravery and fortitude that your predecessors had to bring about their revolutions from the comfort of your first-world home at little to no risk to yourself. The difference between Russia and Ukraine is exactly this. Ukrainians fought for their country in 2014 - called a coup in Russian media. https://www.ft.com/__origami/service/image/v2/images/raw/http%3A%2F%2Fprod-upp-image-read.ft.com%2Fbaa5e4ca-ee53-11e8-8180-9cf212677a57?source=next-opengraph&fit=scale-down&width=900 https://www.ft.com/__origami/service/image/v2/images/raw/htt... It was deadly, the consequences are felt even today. But they are proud of their land, they love their leader. Their country is theirs and they were willing to oust the ruling class to secure their own country. Honestly, enough with the justifications. The cushy western life didn't come easy.
jacquesm 5y ago
You are barking up a tree that is about 1250 km away from the one that you want to bark at.

gopiandcode 5y ago

> Pretty much ALL major developed western country went through such revolutions to earn their freedom. It is time for you to go get it. You realise that you're asking innocent people to risk violence and potentially even give up their lives, to protest an invasion by a despot that they had little opportunity to oppose right? It's pretty easy to take credit for the bravery and fortitude that your predecessors had to bring about their revolutions from the comfort of your first-world home at little to no risk to yourself. Honestly, this seems like the most out of touch call to action that I've ever heard. Also, it only starts to feel even more hypocritical when you realise that there have been several anti-war protests going on in Russia, for which the participants faced brutal violence at the hands of the state.

nine_zeros 5y ago
> You realise that you're asking innocent people to risk violence and potentially even give up their lives, to protest an invasion by a despot that they had little opportunity to oppose right? It's pretty easy to take credit for the bravery and fortitude that your predecessors had to bring about their revolutions from the comfort of your first-world home at little to no risk to yourself. The difference between Russia and Ukraine is exactly this. Ukrainians fought for their country in 2014 - called a coup in Russian media. https://www.ft.com/__origami/service/image/v2/images/raw/http%3A%2F%2Fprod-upp-image-read.ft.com%2Fbaa5e4ca-ee53-11e8-8180-9cf212677a57?source=next-opengraph&fit=scale-down&width=900 https://www.ft.com/__origami/service/image/v2/images/raw/htt... It was deadly, the consequences are felt even today. But they are proud of their land, they love their leader. Their country is theirs and they were willing to oust the ruling class to secure their own country. Honestly, enough with the justifications. The cushy western life didn't come easy.

jacquesm 5y ago

You are barking up a tree that is about 1250 km away from the one that you want to bark at.