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Do you have a source on that? Not that I don't believe you, but when the war started I was fairly young so I didn't realize experts were disagreeing at the time

by tedivm 5y ago

Do you have a source on that? Not that I don't believe you, but when the war started I was fairly young so I didn't realize experts were disagreeing at the time and would like to learn more.

meigwilym 5y ago
There were huge disagreements at the time. Many people weren't happy with the invasion of Afghanistan, but realised it might have been necessary after 9/11. But the rationale for the invasion of Iraq was flimsy at the time, with papers literally copied off the internet being used as evidence. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Dossier https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Dossier This is just one example.
dfxm12 5y ago
I like searching Google limiting the timeframe to see contemporary news stories. Everything was online at the time, so it's especially useful in this case. Look up weapons inspector Hans Blix's famous line "no smoking gun": https://www.cnn.com/2003/US/01/10/wbr.smoking.gun/ https://www.cnn.com/2003/US/01/10/wbr.smoking.gun/. This story is from Jan 2003. The invasion started in March. Keep in mind, it's hard to prove a negative. As you see, the Bush administration made their assertions with evidence that amounted to "Trust me, bro." How do you completely disprove that, you know? Time bound google search: https://www.google.com/search?q=blix+no+smoking+gun&rlz=1C1GCEU_enUS953US955&tbs=cdr%3A1%2Ccd_min%3A1%2F1%2F2002%2Ccd_max%3A3%2F31%2F2003&sxsrf=APq-WBtVEd_hhT7N63wXtEiwgL2lzuyGOw%3A1646232173247&ei=bYIfYtLGDqSp_Qb39bLgCA&ved=0ahUKEwiSsZ3f1Kf2AhWkVN8KHfe6DIwQ4dUDCA4&uact=5&oq=blix+no+smoking+gun&gs_lcp=Cgxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAQAzIFCCEQqwIyBQghEKsCOgQIIxAnOgUIABCRAjoOCC4QgAQQsQMQxwEQowI6BQgAEIAEOggIABCxAxCDAToFCC4QgAQ6CwguEIAEEMcBEKMCOgsILhCABBDHARCvAToOCC4QgAQQsQMQxwEQ0QM6BAgAEEM6CAguENQCEJECOggILhCxAxCRAjoECC4QQzoLCC4QgAQQsQMQ1AI6EAguELEDEMcBENEDENQCEEM6BwguELEDEEM6BwguENQCEEM6CAgAEIAEELEDOgoIABCxAxDJAxAKOgUIABCSAzoHCAAQsQMQCjoECAAQCjoKCAAQsQMQgwEQCjoGCAAQFhAeOgUIIRCgAUoECEEYAUoECEYYAFCHCFieG2CvHGgDcAB4AIABqgGIAdgNkgEEMTQuNZgBAKABAcABAQ&sclient=gws-wiz-serp https://www.google.com/search?q=blix+no+smoking+gun&rlz=1C1G...

by tedivm 5y ago

Do you have a source on that? Not that I don't believe you, but when the war started I was fairly young so I didn't realize experts were disagreeing at the time and would like to learn more.

meigwilym 5y ago

There were huge disagreements at the time. Many people weren't happy with the invasion of Afghanistan, but realised it might have been necessary after 9/11. But the rationale for the invasion of Iraq was flimsy at the time, with papers literally copied off the internet being used as evidence. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Dossier https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Dossier This is just one example.

dfxm12 5y ago

I like searching Google limiting the timeframe to see contemporary news stories. Everything was online at the time, so it's especially useful in this case. Look up weapons inspector Hans Blix's famous line "no smoking gun": https://www.cnn.com/2003/US/01/10/wbr.smoking.gun/ https://www.cnn.com/2003/US/01/10/wbr.smoking.gun/. This story is from Jan 2003. The invasion started in March. Keep in mind, it's hard to prove a negative. As you see, the Bush administration made their assertions with evidence that amounted to "Trust me, bro." How do you completely disprove that, you know? Time bound google search: https://www.google.com/search?q=blix+no+smoking+gun&rlz=1C1GCEU_enUS953US955&tbs=cdr%3A1%2Ccd_min%3A1%2F1%2F2002%2Ccd_max%3A3%2F31%2F2003&sxsrf=APq-WBtVEd_hhT7N63wXtEiwgL2lzuyGOw%3A1646232173247&ei=bYIfYtLGDqSp_Qb39bLgCA&ved=0ahUKEwiSsZ3f1Kf2AhWkVN8KHfe6DIwQ4dUDCA4&uact=5&oq=blix+no+smoking+gun&gs_lcp=Cgxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAQAzIFCCEQqwIyBQghEKsCOgQIIxAnOgUIABCRAjoOCC4QgAQQsQMQxwEQowI6BQgAEIAEOggIABCxAxCDAToFCC4QgAQ6CwguEIAEEMcBEKMCOgsILhCABBDHARCvAToOCC4QgAQQsQMQxwEQ0QM6BAgAEEM6CAguENQCEJECOggILhCxAxCRAjoECC4QQzoLCC4QgAQQsQMQ1AI6EAguELEDEMcBENEDENQCEEM6BwguELEDEEM6BwguENQCEEM6CAgAEIAEELEDOgoIABCxAxDJAxAKOgUIABCSAzoHCAAQsQMQCjoECAAQCjoKCAAQsQMQgwEQCjoGCAAQFhAeOgUIIRCgAUoECEEYAUoECEYYAFCHCFieG2CvHGgDcAB4AIABqgGIAdgNkgEEMTQuNZgBAKABAcABAQ&sclient=gws-wiz-serp https://www.google.com/search?q=blix+no+smoking+gun&rlz=1C1G...