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Am I the only person the caught Putin's "I don't care to occupy Ukraine" in his address a few days ago? Dude goes back on that, he'll have even more problems fr

Am I the only person the caught Putin's "I don't care to occupy Ukraine" in his address a few days ago? Dude goes back on that, he'll have even more problems from untrusting Russian citizens. Everyone assumes his goal is to conquer Ukraine and keep a tight grab on it. We don't know that positively.

VikingCoder 5y ago
> Everyone assumes his goal is to conquer Ukraine and keep a tight grab on it. We don't know that positively. There is strong evidence for that. A ‘reporter’ at RIA Russian media accidentally uploaded a preprepared article saying Ukraine had been returned to Russian rule and tried to delete it. [1] Here's some commentary about what that means from a guy I have really come to respect. [2] [1] https://mil.in.ua/en/news/brave-new-world-of-putin-an-article-by-the-propaganda-publication-ria-novosti-which-was-to-be-published-after-the-occupation-of-ukraine/ https://mil.in.ua/en/news/brave-new-world-of-putin-an-articl... [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWIYfKWSAxw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWIYfKWSAxw
- seanw444 5y ago
  You know what, that's a fair point. It's possible at that scale that that reporter was just writing both outcomes to be prepared for each scenario, while not being aware of what the actual agenda was. Yes, it's state-owned media. That doesn't mean everything they write comes directly from mouths of the top officials. It just means it's generally biased towards the state.
  - jacquesm 5y ago
    A map was shown which had Moldavia as 'bonus territory' attached to this campaign.
tejohnso 5y ago
Yeah, it seemed it was all about security for the two separatist regions in Ukraine and stopping "genocide". And that seemed to be a somewhat reasonable approach. But what is happening now does not fit. And seems unreasonable and illogical.
kahrl 5y ago
Are you the only person who doesn't understand Putin has proven himself time and time and time and time and time and time.......and time and time and time....and time again to be a genocidal liar? That his word means absolutely nothing?

VikingCoder 5y ago

> Everyone assumes his goal is to conquer Ukraine and keep a tight grab on it. We don't know that positively. There is strong evidence for that. A ‘reporter’ at RIA Russian media accidentally uploaded a preprepared article saying Ukraine had been returned to Russian rule and tried to delete it. [1] Here's some commentary about what that means from a guy I have really come to respect. [2] [1] https://mil.in.ua/en/news/brave-new-world-of-putin-an-article-by-the-propaganda-publication-ria-novosti-which-was-to-be-published-after-the-occupation-of-ukraine/ https://mil.in.ua/en/news/brave-new-world-of-putin-an-articl... [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWIYfKWSAxw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWIYfKWSAxw

seanw444 5y ago
You know what, that's a fair point. It's possible at that scale that that reporter was just writing both outcomes to be prepared for each scenario, while not being aware of what the actual agenda was. Yes, it's state-owned media. That doesn't mean everything they write comes directly from mouths of the top officials. It just means it's generally biased towards the state.
- jacquesm 5y ago
  A map was shown which had Moldavia as 'bonus territory' attached to this campaign.

tejohnso 5y ago

Yeah, it seemed it was all about security for the two separatist regions in Ukraine and stopping "genocide". And that seemed to be a somewhat reasonable approach. But what is happening now does not fit. And seems unreasonable and illogical.

kahrl 5y ago

Are you the only person who doesn't understand Putin has proven himself time and time and time and time and time and time.......and time and time and time....and time again to be a genocidal liar? That his word means absolutely nothing?