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Lack of rendering 'bells and whistles'? That statement doesn't mean anything, what bells and whistles? It looks like a mid-2010s f2p Korean MMO? what planet ar

by calsy 5y ago

Lack of rendering 'bells and whistles'? That statement doesn't mean anything, what bells and whistles? It looks like a mid-2010s f2p Korean MMO? what planet are you on. I cant believe I replied to this nonsense.

mirsadm 5y ago
I love the game but I'm not sure what you are not getting? It is a pretty mediocre looking game in terms of graphics tech at least. Horizon Forbidden West came out at the same time and it looks like it was made on another planet compared to Elden Ring.
- calsy 5y ago
  Why not explain the 'bells and whistles' that are missing, for e.g. "It doesn't support ray-tracing", rather then in general terms that are trollish like "rendering isn't good". How does that impact the game exactly? If a game does not incorporating the latest features in DX12 or whatever the features Nvidia brings out for its cards, does that compromise the artistic integrity of the game? Does a painstakingly detailed boss with incredible art and fluid animation just not cut it without these graphics settings?
  - cameronh90 5y ago
    I feel like some people are playing a different game to me. There's constant pop-in, flicker and shimmering, the lighting is flat, the textures are low resolution, the meshes are low geometry. Graphically it just sucks, many last generation console games beat it easily. It also has completely crashed the console multiple times. And I'm playing on PS5 which is reportedly the best experience.
    - calsy 5y ago
      PS5 is the best experience? Who said that? What you described sounds bizarre and far removed from most peoples experience (mine included) with the game regardless of platform. How exactly do you know what resolution textures are or how many polygons are rendered.
      - cameronh90 5y ago
        Everyone is saying the PC port is a mess. Some people say it might be compatibility issues with certain hardware, but unless you think it's a huge conspiracy you surely have to admit there are swathes of players finding it unplayable on excellent machines. The critic reviews for the PS5 version are the best of the bunch. My experiences are similar to what a lot of people are saying on Reddit, here and user review sites. Multiple different parent posters in this thread also said it but you dismissed them too. Even people who like the game are saying the graphics are poor. I can't tell you what the actual resolutions, are but I can tell you that I can see the textures are blurry and that I can see lines on objects that would appear curved on most modern games. I can tell the same way I can tell that Horizon Forbidden West has a higher density mesh than classic Tomb Raider. I also recently played the Demon Souls remake. It has better graphics.
        calsy 5y ago
        Conspiracy, give me a break. Show me a new release AAA game on PC which ran flawlessly for 700,000+ people day 1. People have issues, but everyone saying the PC port is a mess is not true. I have the game on PC and its runs better than most new release games I've played and I've player more than enough of them. The critic reviews stating PS5 version is the best is baseless, I could say the critic review state the PC version is the best. Listing some random social site names or pointing out a vocal minority isn't proof of the games graphic quality, I could find 10x more people who would say otherwise. I recently played Demon souls remake, It doesn't have better graphics.
        cameronh90 5y ago
        Basically every post-release review for the PC version mentions stuttering and performance issues. They aren't affecting everyone but they are widespread enough that Bandai Namco have apologised and said they're going to work on a patch. Clearly you aren't having issues, it does seem to be hardware dependent, but for me and many, many others it's the first game I've played in a while to be so buggy at release (though I didn't play Cyberpunk). I've never had a game crash my PS4 or PS5 like this game does, and quite a lot of people are reporting the same. However the general consensus is clearly that the PC version has serious performance issues for many people. PS5 certainly doesn't seem to have performance issues but it is crashing the entire console for me and others so that's hardly better. I'm not even saying it's a bad game. It might be great. I just can't get far enough to tell because the game crashes my console.
    - algesten 5y ago
      What? I'm also playing on PS5 and had zero crashes so far (20+ hours). Pop-in, flicker and shimmering? It feels like I'm playing a different game to you.
      - cameronh90 5y ago
        Perhaps there is some sort of issue within the game that's making it render and behave differently for different players. I don't know what to say other than my console works perfectly for every other game and I've never had a console crash before I played ER, or since while playing any other game. The whole console suddenly turns off, I have to yank the power, and when it comes back on it sends an error report to Sony. Suffice to say, I lose my progress. See: * https://www.futuregamereleases.com/2022/02/elden-ring-ps5-crashes/ https://www.futuregamereleases.com/2022/02/elden-ring-ps5-cr... * https://www.reddit.com/r/Eldenring/comments/t102fd/ps5_keeps_crashing_while_playing_elden_ring/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Eldenring/comments/t102fd/ps5_keeps...
        Aeolos 5y ago
        I have also experienced hard crashes. For some unfathomable reason, the game comes with HDR turned off by default. You need to start / load a save, press start -> system -> video -> enable HDR (you cannot do that in the main menu for some reason). This improves visual fidelity significantly and makes it feel at least like something resembling a PS4-era game. Coming from Horizon: Forbidden West, the graphics of Elden Ring still feel very dated, with low-res shadows & textures, flat lighting, low draw distance and constant frame drops. The UI is also rather clanky - this is the first game in a decade I actually had too look-up instructions for equipping items. Even with that, I find the atmosphere and experience very enjoyable and I'm looking forward to exploring the world in more depth. I also love the lack of artificial level scaling/gating - go unprepared to the wrong spot and you are dead.

by calsy 5y ago

mirsadm 5y ago

I love the game but I'm not sure what you are not getting? It is a pretty mediocre looking game in terms of graphics tech at least. Horizon Forbidden West came out at the same time and it looks like it was made on another planet compared to Elden Ring.

calsy 5y ago
Why not explain the 'bells and whistles' that are missing, for e.g. "It doesn't support ray-tracing", rather then in general terms that are trollish like "rendering isn't good". How does that impact the game exactly? If a game does not incorporating the latest features in DX12 or whatever the features Nvidia brings out for its cards, does that compromise the artistic integrity of the game? Does a painstakingly detailed boss with incredible art and fluid animation just not cut it without these graphics settings?
- cameronh90 5y ago
  I feel like some people are playing a different game to me. There's constant pop-in, flicker and shimmering, the lighting is flat, the textures are low resolution, the meshes are low geometry. Graphically it just sucks, many last generation console games beat it easily. It also has completely crashed the console multiple times. And I'm playing on PS5 which is reportedly the best experience.
  - calsy 5y ago
    PS5 is the best experience? Who said that? What you described sounds bizarre and far removed from most peoples experience (mine included) with the game regardless of platform. How exactly do you know what resolution textures are or how many polygons are rendered.
    - cameronh90 5y ago
      Everyone is saying the PC port is a mess. Some people say it might be compatibility issues with certain hardware, but unless you think it's a huge conspiracy you surely have to admit there are swathes of players finding it unplayable on excellent machines. The critic reviews for the PS5 version are the best of the bunch. My experiences are similar to what a lot of people are saying on Reddit, here and user review sites. Multiple different parent posters in this thread also said it but you dismissed them too. Even people who like the game are saying the graphics are poor. I can't tell you what the actual resolutions, are but I can tell you that I can see the textures are blurry and that I can see lines on objects that would appear curved on most modern games. I can tell the same way I can tell that Horizon Forbidden West has a higher density mesh than classic Tomb Raider. I also recently played the Demon Souls remake. It has better graphics.
      - calsy 5y ago
        Conspiracy, give me a break. Show me a new release AAA game on PC which ran flawlessly for 700,000+ people day 1. People have issues, but everyone saying the PC port is a mess is not true. I have the game on PC and its runs better than most new release games I've played and I've player more than enough of them. The critic reviews stating PS5 version is the best is baseless, I could say the critic review state the PC version is the best. Listing some random social site names or pointing out a vocal minority isn't proof of the games graphic quality, I could find 10x more people who would say otherwise. I recently played Demon souls remake, It doesn't have better graphics.
        cameronh90 5y ago
        Basically every post-release review for the PC version mentions stuttering and performance issues. They aren't affecting everyone but they are widespread enough that Bandai Namco have apologised and said they're going to work on a patch. Clearly you aren't having issues, it does seem to be hardware dependent, but for me and many, many others it's the first game I've played in a while to be so buggy at release (though I didn't play Cyberpunk). I've never had a game crash my PS4 or PS5 like this game does, and quite a lot of people are reporting the same. However the general consensus is clearly that the PC version has serious performance issues for many people. PS5 certainly doesn't seem to have performance issues but it is crashing the entire console for me and others so that's hardly better. I'm not even saying it's a bad game. It might be great. I just can't get far enough to tell because the game crashes my console.
  - algesten 5y ago
    What? I'm also playing on PS5 and had zero crashes so far (20+ hours). Pop-in, flicker and shimmering? It feels like I'm playing a different game to you.
    - cameronh90 5y ago
      Perhaps there is some sort of issue within the game that's making it render and behave differently for different players. I don't know what to say other than my console works perfectly for every other game and I've never had a console crash before I played ER, or since while playing any other game. The whole console suddenly turns off, I have to yank the power, and when it comes back on it sends an error report to Sony. Suffice to say, I lose my progress. See: * https://www.futuregamereleases.com/2022/02/elden-ring-ps5-crashes/ https://www.futuregamereleases.com/2022/02/elden-ring-ps5-cr... * https://www.reddit.com/r/Eldenring/comments/t102fd/ps5_keeps_crashing_while_playing_elden_ring/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Eldenring/comments/t102fd/ps5_keeps...
      - Aeolos 5y ago
        I have also experienced hard crashes. For some unfathomable reason, the game comes with HDR turned off by default. You need to start / load a save, press start -> system -> video -> enable HDR (you cannot do that in the main menu for some reason). This improves visual fidelity significantly and makes it feel at least like something resembling a PS4-era game. Coming from Horizon: Forbidden West, the graphics of Elden Ring still feel very dated, with low-res shadows & textures, flat lighting, low draw distance and constant frame drops. The UI is also rather clanky - this is the first game in a decade I actually had too look-up instructions for equipping items. Even with that, I find the atmosphere and experience very enjoyable and I'm looking forward to exploring the world in more depth. I also love the lack of artificial level scaling/gating - go unprepared to the wrong spot and you are dead.