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More mass adoption, and browser extensions to support IPFS, and to resolve ENS names, and we're completely in the "web3" world. We just need a standardized way

More mass adoption, and browser extensions to support IPFS, and to resolve ENS names, and we're completely in the "web3" world. We just need a standardized way of mapping ENS names to IPFS CIDs to serve entry point for dApps that are running completely decentrelized.

bckr 5y ago
OK I'm web3 now
- bckr 5y ago
  This was said in earnest. This blog post is the first thing that made me excited about this stuff. shrug.
rvz 5y ago
This is the unresolved myth I keep seeing in web3: > "dApps that are running completely decentrelized" ENS is basically a GoDaddy-like registrar but with blockchain and with all the .eth names still controlled by 7 keyholders in a 'DAO' with four of them only needed to override control (but not totally remove) the .eth TLD. Putting in 'trust' defeats the whole purpose of 'complete decentralization'. At least with Handshake [0], one totally removes 'trust' from the equation which I can already see ENS anchoring (or already has anchored) their TLD on Handshake. [0] https://handshake.org https://handshake.org
- can16358p 5y ago
  Yup trustless naming would be even better, gave the example of ENS because it's popular. My point is that we need adoption for decentralized naming, routing/locating, hosting/"pinning". Be it a combination of ENS/Handshake/IPFS/Sia/Filecoin/BitTorrent/Ethereum or any combination of stacks.
- donmcronald 5y ago
  I’m not a fan of Handshake. The auction system is pretty much the worst system you could build for normal (ie: not rich) businesses that want to register their own names. Seriously, who wants to compete against people who have a gazillion HNS that they got for free? Then add in the fact that it’s a judgement proof blockchain and you’ve got a system that’s awesome for squatters, flippers, and rent seekers while being terrible for real businesses that want to build real value. How do I stop someone from typo squatting or violating my trademarks? I’m always surprised by the number of people that want lawlessness.
  - k__ 5y ago
    Yes. Saw that on Solana and it sucks hard. I know a bunch of people who lost their auctions to some grifters.
  - rvz 5y ago
    Interesting. However: > Seriously, who wants to compete against people who have a gazillion HNS that they got for free? Or you can buy it off of them, just like you do anywhere else if you were too late to buy say, pets.com, nba.eth or .ftx/ which were all 'squatted and flipped' today. No different here and neither system aimed to totally prevent squatters, flippers and rent seekers. Because you cannot and you know that. > Then add in the fact that it’s a judgement proof blockchain and you’ve got a system that’s awesome for squatters, flippers, and rent seekers while being terrible for real businesses that want to build real value. Are you going to say all of that to the Russian users on Namecheap who are getting their domains de-platformed? [0] Perhaps we loved .org getting into the hands of a private-equity firm didn't we? [1] or even the .io [2] and other TLDs price increases. [3]. All thanks to ICANN, right? At least to some extent with either ENS or Handshake a registrar can't 'de-platform' the whole TLD nor can it be seized by anyone; nor can a government request to de-root an entire TLD. [4] > How do I stop someone from typo squatting or violating my trademarks? As I said before, nobody can stop that and anyone who has a popular online business knows that. Even when you take them down, more typo squatters take its place. It happens everywhere. There will always be typo squatters even after trademark violations, unless you buy the domains off of them. > I’m always surprised by the number of people that want lawlessness. Lawlessness? I wonder how those 'criminals' can really cover their tracks by owning several domains on a public blockchain. /s If you want true lawlessness, use Tor and scrambled .onion links followed by messaging apps like Signal with E2EE and sending private untraceable cryptocurrencies on encrypted blockchains like MobileCoin. It's what all the extremists and criminals use to fund their activities and lawlessness without a trace and no transparency. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30504812 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30504812 [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21611677 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21611677 [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29403773 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29403773 [3] https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/04/ethos-capital-grabbing-power-over-domain-names-again-risking-censorship-profit https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/04/ethos-capital-grabbing... [4] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30509567 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30509567
m00dy 5y ago
It is coming bro, buckle up!!
carlosdp 5y ago
There’s already a standard ENS field for mapping to IPFS CIDs! Look at the “Content” field on ENS records.

bckr 5y ago

OK I'm web3 now

bckr 5y ago
This was said in earnest. This blog post is the first thing that made me excited about this stuff. shrug.

rvz 5y ago

This is the unresolved myth I keep seeing in web3: > "dApps that are running completely decentrelized" ENS is basically a GoDaddy-like registrar but with blockchain and with all the .eth names still controlled by 7 keyholders in a 'DAO' with four of them only needed to override control (but not totally remove) the .eth TLD. Putting in 'trust' defeats the whole purpose of 'complete decentralization'. At least with Handshake [0], one totally removes 'trust' from the equation which I can already see ENS anchoring (or already has anchored) their TLD on Handshake. [0] https://handshake.org https://handshake.org

can16358p 5y ago
Yup trustless naming would be even better, gave the example of ENS because it's popular. My point is that we need adoption for decentralized naming, routing/locating, hosting/"pinning". Be it a combination of ENS/Handshake/IPFS/Sia/Filecoin/BitTorrent/Ethereum or any combination of stacks.
donmcronald 5y ago
I’m not a fan of Handshake. The auction system is pretty much the worst system you could build for normal (ie: not rich) businesses that want to register their own names. Seriously, who wants to compete against people who have a gazillion HNS that they got for free? Then add in the fact that it’s a judgement proof blockchain and you’ve got a system that’s awesome for squatters, flippers, and rent seekers while being terrible for real businesses that want to build real value. How do I stop someone from typo squatting or violating my trademarks? I’m always surprised by the number of people that want lawlessness.
- k__ 5y ago
  Yes. Saw that on Solana and it sucks hard. I know a bunch of people who lost their auctions to some grifters.
- rvz 5y ago
  Interesting. However: > Seriously, who wants to compete against people who have a gazillion HNS that they got for free? Or you can buy it off of them, just like you do anywhere else if you were too late to buy say, pets.com, nba.eth or .ftx/ which were all 'squatted and flipped' today. No different here and neither system aimed to totally prevent squatters, flippers and rent seekers. Because you cannot and you know that. > Then add in the fact that it’s a judgement proof blockchain and you’ve got a system that’s awesome for squatters, flippers, and rent seekers while being terrible for real businesses that want to build real value. Are you going to say all of that to the Russian users on Namecheap who are getting their domains de-platformed? [0] Perhaps we loved .org getting into the hands of a private-equity firm didn't we? [1] or even the .io [2] and other TLDs price increases. [3]. All thanks to ICANN, right? At least to some extent with either ENS or Handshake a registrar can't 'de-platform' the whole TLD nor can it be seized by anyone; nor can a government request to de-root an entire TLD. [4] > How do I stop someone from typo squatting or violating my trademarks? As I said before, nobody can stop that and anyone who has a popular online business knows that. Even when you take them down, more typo squatters take its place. It happens everywhere. There will always be typo squatters even after trademark violations, unless you buy the domains off of them. > I’m always surprised by the number of people that want lawlessness. Lawlessness? I wonder how those 'criminals' can really cover their tracks by owning several domains on a public blockchain. /s If you want true lawlessness, use Tor and scrambled .onion links followed by messaging apps like Signal with E2EE and sending private untraceable cryptocurrencies on encrypted blockchains like MobileCoin. It's what all the extremists and criminals use to fund their activities and lawlessness without a trace and no transparency. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30504812 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30504812 [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21611677 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21611677 [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29403773 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29403773 [3] https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/04/ethos-capital-grabbing-power-over-domain-names-again-risking-censorship-profit https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/04/ethos-capital-grabbing... [4] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30509567 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30509567

m00dy 5y ago

It is coming bro, buckle up!!

carlosdp 5y ago

There’s already a standard ENS field for mapping to IPFS CIDs! Look at the “Content” field on ENS records.