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I love Obsidian, but I'm now beginning to move many of my documents to Notion for sharing with a team. I really wish Obsidian, or something like it, worked wel

I love Obsidian, but I'm now beginning to move many of my documents to Notion for sharing with a team. I really wish Obsidian, or something like it, worked well for teams. Maybe it's on their roadmap, I'm not sure.

ParetoOptimal 5y ago
How is notion? I heard it was slow? Also, is real time collaboration a game changer or a gimmick? I used to think the former, but was questioning it recently. What would be lost with syncthing + obsidian for your team or maybe something that does autocommit like fossil for probable conflicts?
- rattray 5y ago
  It's faster now, I haven't been bothered by speed yet. But yes, realtime collaboration is a critical feature for documents that can be used during meetings (and IMO ~no meetings should be held without documents). The other critical feature is comments, which I assume Obsidian does not have support for (they would be very nontrivial to represent in markdown).
  - rattray 5y ago
    For posterity, I got pretty annoyed by the clutter of "Type / for commands" and stuff, and used this Stylish theme to clean things up a bit: https://gist.github.com/rattrayalex/2e4f934045aabc4caeeab249bd723285 https://gist.github.com/rattrayalex/2e4f934045aabc4caeeab249...
- lufasz 5y ago
  It's still painfully slow, and the WYSIWYG editing is very clunky. The real time is not as real time as, say, Google Docs. There's a lot of lag.
prashantsengar 5y ago
Have you tried Athens Research? [0] It is open source and everything is stored locally but not in markdown files. You can self-host the desktop app to share notes. [0]: https://github.com/athensresearch/athens https://github.com/athensresearch/athens
- hammyhavoc 5y ago
  I went to visit https://athensresearch.github.io/athens/ https://athensresearch.github.io/athens/ and got "Only browsers based on Chrome/Chromium are supported" on Firefox. Lol.
  - D13Fd 5y ago
    Wow, iOS Safari gets the same message. Interesting choice…
- rattray 5y ago
  That doesn't seem designed for growing teams – for example, it doesn't seem to have comments.
  - prashantsengar 5y ago
    They are still in beta currently, focusing on small teams right now so there is hope for comments.

ParetoOptimal 5y ago

How is notion? I heard it was slow? Also, is real time collaboration a game changer or a gimmick? I used to think the former, but was questioning it recently. What would be lost with syncthing + obsidian for your team or maybe something that does autocommit like fossil for probable conflicts?

rattray 5y ago
It's faster now, I haven't been bothered by speed yet. But yes, realtime collaboration is a critical feature for documents that can be used during meetings (and IMO ~no meetings should be held without documents). The other critical feature is comments, which I assume Obsidian does not have support for (they would be very nontrivial to represent in markdown).
- rattray 5y ago
  For posterity, I got pretty annoyed by the clutter of "Type / for commands" and stuff, and used this Stylish theme to clean things up a bit: https://gist.github.com/rattrayalex/2e4f934045aabc4caeeab249bd723285 https://gist.github.com/rattrayalex/2e4f934045aabc4caeeab249...
lufasz 5y ago
It's still painfully slow, and the WYSIWYG editing is very clunky. The real time is not as real time as, say, Google Docs. There's a lot of lag.

prashantsengar 5y ago

Have you tried Athens Research? [0] It is open source and everything is stored locally but not in markdown files. You can self-host the desktop app to share notes. [0]: https://github.com/athensresearch/athens https://github.com/athensresearch/athens

hammyhavoc 5y ago
I went to visit https://athensresearch.github.io/athens/ https://athensresearch.github.io/athens/ and got "Only browsers based on Chrome/Chromium are supported" on Firefox. Lol.
- D13Fd 5y ago
  Wow, iOS Safari gets the same message. Interesting choice…
rattray 5y ago
That doesn't seem designed for growing teams – for example, it doesn't seem to have comments.
- prashantsengar 5y ago
  They are still in beta currently, focusing on small teams right now so there is hope for comments.