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My parents are from India, im from Canada. Luckily ive never really seen any caste discrimination, but we are from a religion that specifically outlawed this hu
by user- 5y ago
My parents are from India, im from Canada. Luckily ive never really seen any caste discrimination, but we are from a religion that specifically outlawed this hundreds of years ago (sikhism), even though it didn't exactly dissappear.
I know its something that exists though, its mind boggling that people still adhere to it. Hopefully it goes away though.
Here is an interesting interview type video on it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_g9EraoHbWw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_g9EraoHbWw
- screye 5y agoCaste among Sikh[1] and Muslim[2] communities is as deeply rooted as caste in Hindus. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BSN-3nmMyM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BSN-3nmMyM [2] https://theprint.in/opinion/indias-muslim-community-under-a-churn-85-backward-pasmandas-up-against-15-ashrafs/234599/ https://theprint.in/opinion/indias-muslim-community-under-a-...
- user- 5y agoThanks for these, dissapointing to hear but the more I know the better
- withinboredom 5y agoDid you just man-splain someone’s own religion/community?
- screye 5y agoI merely pointed out that their claim did not pass academic or statistic rigor. India is a big country, and we all live in our silos. I merely refuted the claim. I don't believe I did so condescending-ly or as a means of putting them down. It is one thing to say that "X is not technically a part of our religion" or "I have never witnessed X" and another other to dismiss it as a phenomenon entirely.
- barry-cotter 5y agoAh yes, no one can ever have factually wrong beliefs about their own community. The Serbs were merely defending themselves on Yugoslavia in the 90s.
- TulliusCicero 5y agoPeople are wrong about their own religion or community constantly, often because they feel a need to be defensive, or to portray it in a good light. I grew up Mormon. Many, perhaps most active Mormons will spin controversial Mormon history and teachings in the best possible light, and downplay toxic cultural practices as being not that common, or not really part of the church (even when they were widespread). It's funny, there was even a sort of saying on my mission, "Would you go to a Chevy dealer to ask about a Ford car? No, you'd go to a Ford dealer!" to try and explain why you should trust LDS missionaries. But of course, that saying doesn't really make any sense -- the real authority you should trust would obviously be a reputable third party, not someone with incentives going either way.
- tsol 5y agoThis is overstating the case. While it exists in both communities, it's very uncommon. Still I don't doubt that some people still hold on to those views among the billions in India
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- hasmanean 5y agoAmong Indian and Pakistani Muslims, even though the caste system as a system no longer exists any more for them—neither in law nor custom—the old patterns still exist. Certain professions are more respected, as are certain families and certain skin colours. It takes time for any historical pattern to be reversed. Centuries, maybe even millennia. Even among people who actively reject the caste system it won’t be so easy for it to go away. Maybe technology can help.
- manish_gill 5y agoYeah, as a Sikh from Delhi, I can confirm that you've read the fairy tale version. Caste is ever present in Sikhism.