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> China's claim on Taiwan is 1000x more valid than the Russian claim on Ukraine I think you got it backwards: Taiwan's claim on China is more valid - after all

> China's claim on Taiwan is 1000x more valid than the Russian claim on Ukraine I think you got it backwards: Taiwan's claim on China is more valid - after all, they are the original China unspoiled by the demon of communism.

akvadrako 5y ago
That's exactly the point – if both countries claim to be the rightful owners of both other countries, they are not really separate countries.
ahahahahah 5y ago
Sure, in the same way that the confederacy's claim on the south is valid.
- christophilus 5y ago
  In the same way that the North’s claim on the US South is valid. Mainland China is the Confederacy. Taiwan is the Union. Taiwan and the North were the original governments.
  - wolverine876 5y ago
    Taiwan was a frontier until the Nationalists, losing the civil war to the Communists, fled there. Taiwan has never been the government of China. Are you saying the Nationalists were the original government of China? They didn't exist as a party until the 20th century and didn't last as a party in mainland China past 1949. I don't say that to support the CCP - the only legitimate government is one chosen by the Chinese people - but saying "Taiwan and the North were the original governments" is plainly false. The Confuscian emporers, going back 2,000+ years and lasting until ~1911 (with many interruptions), would have by far the best claim on 'original government'.
wolverine876 5y ago
> Taiwan's claim on China is more valid - after all, they are the original China unspoiled by the demon of communism. I absolutely support the freedom of the people in Taiwan - and of those in all of China, though only the ones in Taiwan have it - but the parent doesn't make sense to me: What is the "original China"? Imperial, Confucian China, which (including many interruptions) goes back over 2,000 years, and ended in ~1911? The predecessors to imperial China? Neither has anything to do with the Nationalists (who fled to Taiwan when they lost the civil war to the Communists).

akvadrako 5y ago

That's exactly the point – if both countries claim to be the rightful owners of both other countries, they are not really separate countries.

ahahahahah 5y ago

Sure, in the same way that the confederacy's claim on the south is valid.

christophilus 5y ago
In the same way that the North’s claim on the US South is valid. Mainland China is the Confederacy. Taiwan is the Union. Taiwan and the North were the original governments.
- wolverine876 5y ago
  Taiwan was a frontier until the Nationalists, losing the civil war to the Communists, fled there. Taiwan has never been the government of China. Are you saying the Nationalists were the original government of China? They didn't exist as a party until the 20th century and didn't last as a party in mainland China past 1949. I don't say that to support the CCP - the only legitimate government is one chosen by the Chinese people - but saying "Taiwan and the North were the original governments" is plainly false. The Confuscian emporers, going back 2,000+ years and lasting until ~1911 (with many interruptions), would have by far the best claim on 'original government'.

wolverine876 5y ago

> Taiwan's claim on China is more valid - after all, they are the original China unspoiled by the demon of communism. I absolutely support the freedom of the people in Taiwan - and of those in all of China, though only the ones in Taiwan have it - but the parent doesn't make sense to me: What is the "original China"? Imperial, Confucian China, which (including many interruptions) goes back over 2,000 years, and ended in ~1911? The predecessors to imperial China? Neither has anything to do with the Nationalists (who fled to Taiwan when they lost the civil war to the Communists).