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A bit off topic but, separate from Indian culture, the United States has a hidden caste system too that flows from antiquity and is given texture through Americ

A bit off topic but, separate from Indian culture, the United States has a hidden caste system too that flows from antiquity and is given texture through American slavery. If your family was a slave or you look like a slave you are, unconscious in the minds of most, systemically bottom caste here. Sorry if it is an unsatisfying critique of America but its obvious. Go look at the wealth data, look who is thriving and has net worth or success in business.

johntiger1 5y ago
from my understanding, the caste system is thousands of years old (in fact one of the reason islam was welcomed and later sikh religion developed). are you sure that american slavery was the origin?
- vmception 5y ago
  They are talking about the US distinctly. The US caste system, which has morphed primarily into a class system as the laws no longer explicitly single groups out, despite the correlations of effects that remain.
- Sebguer 5y ago
  They're not implying that the Indian caste system originated in American slavery, they're stating that America also has a caste system.
  - gerdesj 5y ago
    Perhaps class system is a better term. The terms nearly mean the same thing but not quite. I think the caste system is closer in origin to the societal structure in the feudal system that was common in medieval Europe, than the modern class system.
    - sulam 5y ago
      Class specifically can be changed, whereas caste cannot. You can dress better, pronounce words in an upper class style, and live in a better neighborhood but still be treated like you need to use the back door to enter your own office because of the color of your skin.
pinephoneguy 5y ago
Has vs had. I suppose you could say the races that were former slaves are now given an artificial advantage but I wouldn't go so far as to call it a caste system.
gerdesj 5y ago
This is waaaay off topic. Carry down that line of thought and you might fall into all sorts of nonsense. Note things like Pope Gregory (n?) saw a pair of slaves in a market in Rome in the n00s. These two were picked up from somewhere that would eventually become part of England/GB. He was told they were Angles. The story goes he quipped that they were "surely Angels" due to their physique and long blonde hair. Part of England is known as Anglia still and of course England itself is "Angleland". It seems a bit odd that, that anecdote and play on words survives a good 1500 years during which time English has gone through three major stages (old/middle/modern). However you can easily posit from that story that Britons were also enslaved, if you very carefully define "Briton"! Anyway, my point is that you can't really use terms like american slavery. History can't be stuffed into boxes like that with pejorative terms scattered like confetti. The caste system being discussed here is nominally an indian sub continent thing and way older in origin than the slavery employed around C17th onwards with the horrendous triangle of trade.
- birdyrooster 5y ago
  Yes off topic, and I edited my comment to reflect this. American slavery is a distinct type of slavery because of the geography and people involved. That is all I was saying.
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johntiger1 5y ago

from my understanding, the caste system is thousands of years old (in fact one of the reason islam was welcomed and later sikh religion developed). are you sure that american slavery was the origin?

vmception 5y ago
They are talking about the US distinctly. The US caste system, which has morphed primarily into a class system as the laws no longer explicitly single groups out, despite the correlations of effects that remain.
Sebguer 5y ago
They're not implying that the Indian caste system originated in American slavery, they're stating that America also has a caste system.
- gerdesj 5y ago
  Perhaps class system is a better term. The terms nearly mean the same thing but not quite. I think the caste system is closer in origin to the societal structure in the feudal system that was common in medieval Europe, than the modern class system.
  - sulam 5y ago
    Class specifically can be changed, whereas caste cannot. You can dress better, pronounce words in an upper class style, and live in a better neighborhood but still be treated like you need to use the back door to enter your own office because of the color of your skin.

pinephoneguy 5y ago

Has vs had. I suppose you could say the races that were former slaves are now given an artificial advantage but I wouldn't go so far as to call it a caste system.

gerdesj 5y ago

This is waaaay off topic. Carry down that line of thought and you might fall into all sorts of nonsense. Note things like Pope Gregory (n?) saw a pair of slaves in a market in Rome in the n00s. These two were picked up from somewhere that would eventually become part of England/GB. He was told they were Angles. The story goes he quipped that they were "surely Angels" due to their physique and long blonde hair. Part of England is known as Anglia still and of course England itself is "Angleland". It seems a bit odd that, that anecdote and play on words survives a good 1500 years during which time English has gone through three major stages (old/middle/modern). However you can easily posit from that story that Britons were also enslaved, if you very carefully define "Briton"! Anyway, my point is that you can't really use terms like american slavery. History can't be stuffed into boxes like that with pejorative terms scattered like confetti. The caste system being discussed here is nominally an indian sub continent thing and way older in origin than the slavery employed around C17th onwards with the horrendous triangle of trade.

birdyrooster 5y ago
Yes off topic, and I edited my comment to reflect this. American slavery is a distinct type of slavery because of the geography and people involved. That is all I was saying.

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