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We have SDR and the ability to actively tap into their communication, while at the same time not seeing digital communication. This leads to two options: 1. T

We have SDR and the ability to actively tap into their communication, while at the same time not seeing digital communication. This leads to two options: 1. They don't have any communications at all and the analog we capture is 'fake' 2. They are using the analog unencrypted channels we can all listen to In fantasyland there is a third option: they have wireless communication that isn't detectable at all and doesn't use devices we can take photos of.

gpderetta 5y ago
I know nothing of this stuff but potentially: - Extreme wide spectrum frequency hopping. Hard to distinguish from the noise floor. - Steganographic encrypted channel over fake unencrypted channel. If course when in doubt, assuming stupidity is the safe bet.
- oneplane 5y ago
  While I haven't dug deep in to the black arts that is RF and MW, it would indeed hide it better (the hopping), but because the noise floor would have 'more energy' during an active transmitter they would either always have to be transmitting or be so close to each other that they can keep the energy low. I think the analysis appliances are capable of finding hopping transmissions, even in the lower range (still expensive) spectrum analysers. It does of course depend on how fast they can scan the whole range and how wide the range is. But Hanlon's razor applies, and indeed, it is more likely incompetence.
chrisco255 5y ago
The reports of disarray from Russia have absolutely nothing to do with SDR comms or top secret military interceptions from the Pentagon. They're all based on social media videos that are mixing old events with current events, and some outright fabrications such as the Ghost of Kiev that a sitting U.S. congressperson fell for. Instead we have a clown show media that has already spent the last decade or two, disgracing itself repeatedly, from Iraq to Afghanistan to Syria to Libya to China to Russia unable to make any trustworthy context of current events. Even if our own military was making this claim, that is not automatically trustworthy either. It's likely propaganda, just as the WMDs were. You really do not know. So when you hear reports of a feckless Russian military completely unable to tell which way is North or unable to drop bombs without Google Maps access, and your first response is not skepticism, you aren't paying attention. Meanwhile, even if you had direct feeds of their comms, do you know which comms are headfakes and which ones are real? Don't be foolish. Russia is one of the most successful nations in military history. We probably would not have won World War 2 without them. You probably do not have them figured out from your Twitter or TikTok feed.
- Sebguer 5y ago
  TBF to the 'sitting US congressperson', the Ukraine Ministry of Defense twitter also retweeted the Ghost of Kiev story.
  - kuraudo 5y ago
    That's what makes it worse: they added an animation knowing full well it wasn't real. I have been disgusted with the level of propaganda coming out of Ukraine that people are blindly accepting. We have been told for years to expect this from Russia, but instead "Baghdad bob" is on our side.
    - sofixa 5y ago
      Disgusted? Ukraine are at a very disadvantageous position, being attacked from all directions by a superior ( on paper) military force. Their only hope of winning ( or at least making the Russians lose) is to keep morale high, and have the majority of the population fight and resist actively the invasion. Purely militarily they're screwed, but if their population resists, the Russians have no chance of establishing control. Morale is vital. That's why Zelensky is staying in Kyiv, with grave risk for his life, to keep the spirits up. With all that in mind, Ukraine needs every possible win it can get on the PR front. Kindergarten bombed? Kharkiv city center shelled indiscriminately? Video of random civilians on a road being obliterated by a missile? They need to tell everyone all of that, so that Ukrainians keep on fighting, and so the world keeps supporting them so there's weapons to fight with. National legends, feel good stories about superhuman successes by legendary men better than us is classic. If they exaggerate or invent some feel good/positive things, it doesn't matter. They're at a war they cannot win on military terms. The ends ( surviving) justifies the means.
- oneplane 5y ago
  What do Twitter or TickTock or any other things you mentioned to do with anything I wrote? You either have wireless communication or you don't, and you can detect the presence and absence of it using a software defined radio. Perhaps you were responding to someone else.

gpderetta 5y ago

I know nothing of this stuff but potentially: - Extreme wide spectrum frequency hopping. Hard to distinguish from the noise floor. - Steganographic encrypted channel over fake unencrypted channel. If course when in doubt, assuming stupidity is the safe bet.

oneplane 5y ago
While I haven't dug deep in to the black arts that is RF and MW, it would indeed hide it better (the hopping), but because the noise floor would have 'more energy' during an active transmitter they would either always have to be transmitting or be so close to each other that they can keep the energy low. I think the analysis appliances are capable of finding hopping transmissions, even in the lower range (still expensive) spectrum analysers. It does of course depend on how fast they can scan the whole range and how wide the range is. But Hanlon's razor applies, and indeed, it is more likely incompetence.

chrisco255 5y ago

The reports of disarray from Russia have absolutely nothing to do with SDR comms or top secret military interceptions from the Pentagon. They're all based on social media videos that are mixing old events with current events, and some outright fabrications such as the Ghost of Kiev that a sitting U.S. congressperson fell for. Instead we have a clown show media that has already spent the last decade or two, disgracing itself repeatedly, from Iraq to Afghanistan to Syria to Libya to China to Russia unable to make any trustworthy context of current events. Even if our own military was making this claim, that is not automatically trustworthy either. It's likely propaganda, just as the WMDs were. You really do not know. So when you hear reports of a feckless Russian military completely unable to tell which way is North or unable to drop bombs without Google Maps access, and your first response is not skepticism, you aren't paying attention. Meanwhile, even if you had direct feeds of their comms, do you know which comms are headfakes and which ones are real? Don't be foolish. Russia is one of the most successful nations in military history. We probably would not have won World War 2 without them. You probably do not have them figured out from your Twitter or TikTok feed.

Sebguer 5y ago
TBF to the 'sitting US congressperson', the Ukraine Ministry of Defense twitter also retweeted the Ghost of Kiev story.
- kuraudo 5y ago
  That's what makes it worse: they added an animation knowing full well it wasn't real. I have been disgusted with the level of propaganda coming out of Ukraine that people are blindly accepting. We have been told for years to expect this from Russia, but instead "Baghdad bob" is on our side.
  - sofixa 5y ago
    Disgusted? Ukraine are at a very disadvantageous position, being attacked from all directions by a superior ( on paper) military force. Their only hope of winning ( or at least making the Russians lose) is to keep morale high, and have the majority of the population fight and resist actively the invasion. Purely militarily they're screwed, but if their population resists, the Russians have no chance of establishing control. Morale is vital. That's why Zelensky is staying in Kyiv, with grave risk for his life, to keep the spirits up. With all that in mind, Ukraine needs every possible win it can get on the PR front. Kindergarten bombed? Kharkiv city center shelled indiscriminately? Video of random civilians on a road being obliterated by a missile? They need to tell everyone all of that, so that Ukrainians keep on fighting, and so the world keeps supporting them so there's weapons to fight with. National legends, feel good stories about superhuman successes by legendary men better than us is classic. If they exaggerate or invent some feel good/positive things, it doesn't matter. They're at a war they cannot win on military terms. The ends ( surviving) justifies the means.
oneplane 5y ago
What do Twitter or TickTock or any other things you mentioned to do with anything I wrote? You either have wireless communication or you don't, and you can detect the presence and absence of it using a software defined radio. Perhaps you were responding to someone else.