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It's fairly standard practice in the military to use Google Earth for air/ground coordination. I would have no doubt that Russia's military uses these same proc

by kodah 5y ago

It's fairly standard practice in the military to use Google Earth for air/ground coordination. I would have no doubt that Russia's military uses these same procedures. If you need evidence that Google Earth is used by militaries then download Google Earth Pro and look in settings. There is a setting for, "Enable MGRS".

waffleiron 5y ago
Sure, they could use private tags. But it's absolutely not standard practice to use public tags (that also need to be approved, and can be changed, by other google maps users).
- kodah 5y ago
  Ah, I didn't realize that's what they're doing. That is incredibly stupid opsec.
  - sulam 5y ago
    They probably are not doing that. As others have pointed out, there are major hurdles to doing that.
CapricornNoble 5y ago
>>>It's fairly standard practice in the military to use Google Earth for air/ground coordination. The US doesn't use Google Earth for fire support coordination, especially with combined arms assets (artillery, air, naval fires). We have dedicated software for that. https://asc.army.mil/web/portfolio-item/advanced-field-artillery-tactical-data-system-afatds/ https://asc.army.mil/web/portfolio-item/advanced-field-artil... https://dzone.com/articles/war-fighter-netbeans-platform https://dzone.com/articles/war-fighter-netbeans-platform https://www.raytheon.com/capabilities/products/joint-automated-deep-operations-coordination-system-jadocs https://www.raytheon.com/capabilities/products/joint-automat...
- kodah 5y ago
  This is relatively new then. In 2011, in the Marines, we were using Google Earth.
  - CapricornNoble 5y ago
    AFATDS and JADOCS were mature platforms when I learned them, also in 2011! Agile Client is newer to the Corps but has been used by the other services for a while. The problem with open-source geographic information systems is I don't think they are trusted/certified for accurate target mensuration. I don't have a good resource that explains exactly why/what the impacts could be, but I had a guy in the Fires Cell explain it that way once...

by kodah 5y ago

waffleiron 5y ago

Sure, they could use private tags. But it's absolutely not standard practice to use public tags (that also need to be approved, and can be changed, by other google maps users).

kodah 5y ago
Ah, I didn't realize that's what they're doing. That is incredibly stupid opsec.
- sulam 5y ago
  They probably are not doing that. As others have pointed out, there are major hurdles to doing that.

CapricornNoble 5y ago

>>>It's fairly standard practice in the military to use Google Earth for air/ground coordination. The US doesn't use Google Earth for fire support coordination, especially with combined arms assets (artillery, air, naval fires). We have dedicated software for that. https://asc.army.mil/web/portfolio-item/advanced-field-artillery-tactical-data-system-afatds/ https://asc.army.mil/web/portfolio-item/advanced-field-artil... https://dzone.com/articles/war-fighter-netbeans-platform https://dzone.com/articles/war-fighter-netbeans-platform https://www.raytheon.com/capabilities/products/joint-automated-deep-operations-coordination-system-jadocs https://www.raytheon.com/capabilities/products/joint-automat...

kodah 5y ago
This is relatively new then. In 2011, in the Marines, we were using Google Earth.
- CapricornNoble 5y ago
  AFATDS and JADOCS were mature platforms when I learned them, also in 2011! Agile Client is newer to the Corps but has been used by the other services for a while. The problem with open-source geographic information systems is I don't think they are trusted/certified for accurate target mensuration. I don't have a good resource that explains exactly why/what the impacts could be, but I had a guy in the Fires Cell explain it that way once...