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To be clear, are you saying the 65km convoy is going to fail to take Kyiv? I just don't understand how that could happen unless they literally run out of fuel

To be clear, are you saying the 65km convoy is going to fail to take Kyiv? I just don't understand how that could happen unless they literally run out of fuel on the way, or if some serious airforce intervenes.

yks 5y ago
Length of this convoy is different every hour and it's been out there "ready to take Kyiv" for days now. If the soldiers are already out of food, it's as good as a heap of scrap. If you fancy thinking about "3D-chess mastermind military tactics", then how about the fact that Ukraine seemingly does not even bother to deal with the convoy, and they have working ballistic rockets, think about that.
- jessaustin 5y ago
  Indeed, this convoy has made a variety of seemingly contradictory impressions on those reporting. The strongest possibility may be that the reports we're receiving aren't very accurate.
  - ihumanable 5y ago
    "Length of convoy" is such a weird metric for all the news agencies to use. We don't they just count the vehicles, I would imagine even basic computer vision software could do that with reasonable accuracy. If 100 vehicles are in a 10 mile long convoy and then they space out more and are now in a 20 mile long convoy, it's still 100 vehicles. I do enjoy reading each day the different lengths and distances to Kyiv.
    - cutemonster 5y ago
      Do you know how many vehicles are in the convoy?
blibble 5y ago
> unless they literally run out of fuel on the way this seems to be happening quite a bit
ddalex 5y ago
65km convoy means, what, 6000 vehicles and 30k people ? How do you control with 30k soldiers a city of 3Mil that freely distributed guns to residents ? It's going to be a slaughter, on both sides :(
Andrew_nenakhov 5y ago
This convoy might defeat itself in a few days because they'll run out of fuel, or food, or drinking water. If anything, it is unthinkable for an advanced army to move in such disposition. They what, cosplay the Freedom Convoy?
- type0 5y ago
  > They what, cosplay the Freedom Convoy? Putin did say his troops will be fighting for "Freedom" of Ukraine.
LorenPechtel 5y ago
They're on roads. The ground is muddy. Pop the leader with a Javelin. Pop a couple more vehicles that try to get around it. Presto, instant traffic jam and the Russians have repeatedly shown they clump up in traffic jams. Now you hit the vehicles in the rear, you're not likely to need sophisticated weapons to do that. Now you have a huge mess that you can rain mortar fire on. Finland did a lower-tech version of it to them long ago with trees rather than mud as the barrier.
0ld 5y ago
> they literally run out of fuel on the way surprise (not), but they literally ran out of fuel on the way [0] that 65km convoy is just a 65km sitting duck of a traffic jam at the moment. without fuel and food all of this war is a festival of glorious russian corruption and incompetency at its best. i, as a ukrainian, must thank them for that [0]: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-move-kyiv-stalled-now-may-be-rethinking-approach-us-official-2022-03-01/ https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-move-kyiv-stall...

yks 5y ago

Length of this convoy is different every hour and it's been out there "ready to take Kyiv" for days now. If the soldiers are already out of food, it's as good as a heap of scrap. If you fancy thinking about "3D-chess mastermind military tactics", then how about the fact that Ukraine seemingly does not even bother to deal with the convoy, and they have working ballistic rockets, think about that.

jessaustin 5y ago
Indeed, this convoy has made a variety of seemingly contradictory impressions on those reporting. The strongest possibility may be that the reports we're receiving aren't very accurate.
- ihumanable 5y ago
  "Length of convoy" is such a weird metric for all the news agencies to use. We don't they just count the vehicles, I would imagine even basic computer vision software could do that with reasonable accuracy. If 100 vehicles are in a 10 mile long convoy and then they space out more and are now in a 20 mile long convoy, it's still 100 vehicles. I do enjoy reading each day the different lengths and distances to Kyiv.
  - cutemonster 5y ago
    Do you know how many vehicles are in the convoy?

blibble 5y ago

> unless they literally run out of fuel on the way this seems to be happening quite a bit

ddalex 5y ago

65km convoy means, what, 6000 vehicles and 30k people ? How do you control with 30k soldiers a city of 3Mil that freely distributed guns to residents ? It's going to be a slaughter, on both sides :(

Andrew_nenakhov 5y ago

This convoy might defeat itself in a few days because they'll run out of fuel, or food, or drinking water. If anything, it is unthinkable for an advanced army to move in such disposition. They what, cosplay the Freedom Convoy?

type0 5y ago
> They what, cosplay the Freedom Convoy? Putin did say his troops will be fighting for "Freedom" of Ukraine.

LorenPechtel 5y ago

They're on roads. The ground is muddy. Pop the leader with a Javelin. Pop a couple more vehicles that try to get around it. Presto, instant traffic jam and the Russians have repeatedly shown they clump up in traffic jams. Now you hit the vehicles in the rear, you're not likely to need sophisticated weapons to do that. Now you have a huge mess that you can rain mortar fire on. Finland did a lower-tech version of it to them long ago with trees rather than mud as the barrier.

0ld 5y ago

> they literally run out of fuel on the way surprise (not), but they literally ran out of fuel on the way [0] that 65km convoy is just a 65km sitting duck of a traffic jam at the moment. without fuel and food all of this war is a festival of glorious russian corruption and incompetency at its best. i, as a ukrainian, must thank them for that [0]: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-move-kyiv-stalled-now-may-be-rethinking-approach-us-official-2022-03-01/ https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-move-kyiv-stall...