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Essential for any development occurring on a Mac IMO. I upgraded from a fully specced out 16inch to a base model M1 with the 32GB upgrade (a machine roughly hal

Essential for any development occurring on a Mac IMO. I upgraded from a fully specced out 16inch to a base model M1 with the 32GB upgrade (a machine roughly half the price I think) and it's night and day. I can use Docker now without Slack getting laggy.

zitterbewegung 5y ago
I guess the new benchmark for development is can it run Slack? (While developing)
- thebean11 5y ago
  In my experience, yeah unfortunately. Slack goes to shit if the computer is under load, way before other software.
  - criddell 5y ago
    Just be thankful you don't have to use Teams.
- steveBK123 5y ago
  arguably slack having performance issues might increase most developers productivity
  - Nextgrid 5y ago
    When I had to use Teams it gave me a good excuse to opt out of bullshit meetings. It used to be that I can leave the BS meeting in the background and get some work done, but with Teams running I couldn't even use my IDE without seconds worth of keyboard latency, so now they had to explicitly choose whether to let me go or have me stay and get nothing done.
  - nicoburns 5y ago
    I realise your post is in jest, but I've found that responsive slack (due to a similar machine upgrade) has actually had a noticeably positive effect on my productivity. Checking a slack notification is now a ~2-5 second task, quick enough that I can switch back to my task with losing context. It used to be more like 10-20 seconds if my machine was under load which was highly disruptive.
    - steveBK123 5y ago
      I do not in any way post in jest. Slack is an abomination. Slack is all the bad organizational behavioral issues of email, except harder to filter with rules & with more sender-side options for creating noise for the recipient. It's lovely to send a slack and get quick response. It's a huge productivity killer to get dozens/100s of half-thoughts ad-hoc sent over IMs to individuals and blasted to groups. Is there a massive production outage? (I care about) Did someone just share a funny GIF? Is Bob helping Jim debug a firewall issue for a client? (none of which I care about) I got that stupid red dot, hard to tell without checking.
  - hughrr 5y ago
    When they broke Slack the other I actually celebrated for the couple of hours and got some work done for a change. No joke but it's the single most productivity destroying tool I have ever used.
periheli0n 5y ago
I thought the base model M1 maxed out at 16GB? Must be a M1 pro or max.
- nicoburns 5y ago
  The 14 and 16 inch models only have pro or max, so yes that must be what they meant.
- thebean11 5y ago
  Yeah that was unclear, I meant the base model 16 inch which has an M1 pro chip.
kitsunesoba 5y ago
I can’t wait for the next macOS + iOS updates so I can use Universal Control to run Slack on my iPad and never have to open their bloated web/electron app ever again. I wish Slack would just let us run the iOS app on our macs with Catalyst, but they seem pretty bent on pushing desktop OS users to the web/electron version.
- azinman2 5y ago
  Is the iOS app not also web based?
  - kitsunesoba 5y ago
    Last I knew the Slack iOS app is built with React Native, which still isn’t the best in terms of resource usage but is better.
  - mwint 5y ago
    Probably, but if it’s not using my development system’s resources I don’t particularly care.
  - udbhavs 5y ago
    For a short while when the M1 macs first released, people were successfully sideloading the iOS versions of Discord and Slack on them which were significantly lighter, but I think Apple has patched it now and it's not possible anymore
    - antifa 5y ago
      Why would they block that? That's a huge selling point of the M1!

zitterbewegung 5y ago

I guess the new benchmark for development is can it run Slack? (While developing)

thebean11 5y ago
In my experience, yeah unfortunately. Slack goes to shit if the computer is under load, way before other software.
- criddell 5y ago
  Just be thankful you don't have to use Teams.
steveBK123 5y ago
arguably slack having performance issues might increase most developers productivity
- Nextgrid 5y ago
  When I had to use Teams it gave me a good excuse to opt out of bullshit meetings. It used to be that I can leave the BS meeting in the background and get some work done, but with Teams running I couldn't even use my IDE without seconds worth of keyboard latency, so now they had to explicitly choose whether to let me go or have me stay and get nothing done.
- nicoburns 5y ago
  I realise your post is in jest, but I've found that responsive slack (due to a similar machine upgrade) has actually had a noticeably positive effect on my productivity. Checking a slack notification is now a ~2-5 second task, quick enough that I can switch back to my task with losing context. It used to be more like 10-20 seconds if my machine was under load which was highly disruptive.
  - steveBK123 5y ago
    I do not in any way post in jest. Slack is an abomination. Slack is all the bad organizational behavioral issues of email, except harder to filter with rules & with more sender-side options for creating noise for the recipient. It's lovely to send a slack and get quick response. It's a huge productivity killer to get dozens/100s of half-thoughts ad-hoc sent over IMs to individuals and blasted to groups. Is there a massive production outage? (I care about) Did someone just share a funny GIF? Is Bob helping Jim debug a firewall issue for a client? (none of which I care about) I got that stupid red dot, hard to tell without checking.
- hughrr 5y ago
  When they broke Slack the other I actually celebrated for the couple of hours and got some work done for a change. No joke but it's the single most productivity destroying tool I have ever used.

periheli0n 5y ago

I thought the base model M1 maxed out at 16GB? Must be a M1 pro or max.

nicoburns 5y ago
The 14 and 16 inch models only have pro or max, so yes that must be what they meant.
thebean11 5y ago
Yeah that was unclear, I meant the base model 16 inch which has an M1 pro chip.

kitsunesoba 5y ago

I can’t wait for the next macOS + iOS updates so I can use Universal Control to run Slack on my iPad and never have to open their bloated web/electron app ever again. I wish Slack would just let us run the iOS app on our macs with Catalyst, but they seem pretty bent on pushing desktop OS users to the web/electron version.

azinman2 5y ago
Is the iOS app not also web based?
- kitsunesoba 5y ago
  Last I knew the Slack iOS app is built with React Native, which still isn’t the best in terms of resource usage but is better.
- mwint 5y ago
  Probably, but if it’s not using my development system’s resources I don’t particularly care.
- udbhavs 5y ago
  For a short while when the M1 macs first released, people were successfully sideloading the iOS versions of Discord and Slack on them which were significantly lighter, but I think Apple has patched it now and it's not possible anymore
  - antifa 5y ago
    Why would they block that? That's a huge selling point of the M1!