Mostly agree with what you wrote with the following precisions : > "named by a totally informal group" I used the term "informal" from the legal point of vie

Mostly agree with what you wrote with the following precisions : > "named by a totally informal group" I used the term "informal" from the legal point of view. I'll have a box of cookies of your choice delivered to your home if you can find me the treaty basis, or any other legally formal basis for its existence. > "EU Commissars" That was tongue-in-cheek from me, as related to Bolchevik buraucratic komissars - lovers of all things centralized. > had nothing to do with the SWIFT ban The Eurogroup didn't have it, correct, but the people it chose did very much so. Similarly, what's that about waging war, which happened in the same bureaucratic breath yeasterday ? I don't remember J.Borell or Ch.Michel having been chosen as commanders in chief. > So they are still under democratic control [...] (it does have a bunch of issues from a democratic perspective) In the end, I'm partly Swiss, so I abhor my democracy being representative with a separation degree larger than n=1, or directly myself.