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Isn't this just going to end up causing companies to post large salary ranges with no intention of paying the higher part of the range?

t-writescode 5y ago
Then hopefully those companies get fewer applications and they learn to be honest- or, if their salary bands are that wide for a single title, maybe they need to think about how they’re treating their employees. Maybe there’s some racial or gender bias they need to work on.
- political12345 5y ago
  ofc as always. why not the simple explanation: they are cheapscates ?
  - t-writescode 5y ago
    Because this is the bigger and more important one that each company needs to evaluate itself on: Maybe there’s some racial or gender bias they need to work on.
    - political12345 5y ago
      and maybe there isn't. just because there's problem it doesnt mean its a race/gender problem. are we now going to enter a loop?
      - t-writescode 5y ago
        If they do a thorough and genuine review of themselves and find themselves without fault, that's one thing :) Can't know what you don't measure and evaluate, though; and ultra-wide salary bands for a single title is a smell worth investigating.
jonathankoren 5y ago
So the great thing is, people won’t accept those jobs, and so they’ll have to correct the ranges.
tedivm 5y ago
We have the best job market in decades right now. If a company tells me a range and gives me an offer in the 50% percentile or lower I'm going to ask why, and what it will take to increase it. If the answer is obviously crap then I'm just not going to work for those people. Advertising something and then ripping it out from underneath people in the final stages will build resentment- it's a horrible strategy.
HWR_14 5y ago
In NYC, you can be sued for that. There is some standard of proof that you have to meet (not a lawyer) that there are reasonable candidates for that position who would get the top of the range.
tuckerpo 5y ago
That's kind of what happens in Colorado now that listing salary range is compulsory. A company will say something like 110k-250k commensurate with experience, but you can bet they're not actually going to shell out anything close to the high posted range. Just my anecdote.
grumple 5y ago
Not a chance imo. When I get a salary range it means the top of that range. Anybody asking for less is making an error. Sometimes I get a range and I talk to the recruiter/company and tell them I need significantly more than that. In this market, demand more.

t-writescode 5y ago

Then hopefully those companies get fewer applications and they learn to be honest- or, if their salary bands are that wide for a single title, maybe they need to think about how they’re treating their employees. Maybe there’s some racial or gender bias they need to work on.

political12345 5y ago
ofc as always. why not the simple explanation: they are cheapscates ?
- t-writescode 5y ago
  Because this is the bigger and more important one that each company needs to evaluate itself on: Maybe there’s some racial or gender bias they need to work on.
  - political12345 5y ago
    and maybe there isn't. just because there's problem it doesnt mean its a race/gender problem. are we now going to enter a loop?
    - t-writescode 5y ago
      If they do a thorough and genuine review of themselves and find themselves without fault, that's one thing :) Can't know what you don't measure and evaluate, though; and ultra-wide salary bands for a single title is a smell worth investigating.

jonathankoren 5y ago

So the great thing is, people won’t accept those jobs, and so they’ll have to correct the ranges.

tedivm 5y ago

We have the best job market in decades right now. If a company tells me a range and gives me an offer in the 50% percentile or lower I'm going to ask why, and what it will take to increase it. If the answer is obviously crap then I'm just not going to work for those people. Advertising something and then ripping it out from underneath people in the final stages will build resentment- it's a horrible strategy.

HWR_14 5y ago

In NYC, you can be sued for that. There is some standard of proof that you have to meet (not a lawyer) that there are reasonable candidates for that position who would get the top of the range.

tuckerpo 5y ago

That's kind of what happens in Colorado now that listing salary range is compulsory. A company will say something like 110k-250k commensurate with experience, but you can bet they're not actually going to shell out anything close to the high posted range. Just my anecdote.

grumple 5y ago

Not a chance imo. When I get a salary range it means the top of that range. Anybody asking for less is making an error. Sometimes I get a range and I talk to the recruiter/company and tell them I need significantly more than that. In this market, demand more.