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NO It does not matter that they are 'merely performing "typical state administrative functions". The great accolade for Mussolini was that he kept the trains

by toss1 5y ago

NO It does not matter that they are 'merely performing "typical state administrative functions". The great accolade for Mussolini was that he kept the trains running on time. Dealing with such people is a losing game - they always deceive and always take more until stopped. The only proper response to authoritarians, despots, fascists etc. was provided by the Snake Island garrison to the Russian destroyer: "Go F*k Yourselves". And the same goes for apologist-type responses like yours. If you have not figured this out from this week's events, you need to seriously rethink your life.

ncmncm 5y ago
Just for reference... Mussolini did not keep the trains running on time, he made it dangerous to complain about the trains not running on time. Not even close to the same.
- toss1 5y ago
  Perhaps true, but quite offtopic The POINT was that "merely performing typical state administrative functions" somehow makes them a legitimate government. That is beyond absurd Whether or not Mussollini made or failed to make the trains run on time, these administrative functions, whether performed well or poorly does not make any difference - they make them no less a criminal or despot. EVERY warlord needs to perform some admin functions, and it does NOT in any way confer legitimacy if they do so. Mafia dons contribute to hospitals and festivals, but it does not make them less criminals.
  - ncmncm 5y ago
    Legitimacy is not a matter of opinion. Either they control the territory and the people in it, or they don't. FARC, for example, never tried administering anything. But the Taliban has actual courts where they enforce actual written and published laws. We don't like the laws they enforce, but nobody says they are not doing it. (By all accounts, their enforcement is much less corrupt than what they supplanted.) That doesn't make it good government, but it certainly is government.

by toss1 5y ago

ncmncm 5y ago

Just for reference... Mussolini did not keep the trains running on time, he made it dangerous to complain about the trains not running on time. Not even close to the same.

toss1 5y ago
Perhaps true, but quite offtopic The POINT was that "merely performing typical state administrative functions" somehow makes them a legitimate government. That is beyond absurd Whether or not Mussollini made or failed to make the trains run on time, these administrative functions, whether performed well or poorly does not make any difference - they make them no less a criminal or despot. EVERY warlord needs to perform some admin functions, and it does NOT in any way confer legitimacy if they do so. Mafia dons contribute to hospitals and festivals, but it does not make them less criminals.
- ncmncm 5y ago
  Legitimacy is not a matter of opinion. Either they control the territory and the people in it, or they don't. FARC, for example, never tried administering anything. But the Taliban has actual courts where they enforce actual written and published laws. We don't like the laws they enforce, but nobody says they are not doing it. (By all accounts, their enforcement is much less corrupt than what they supplanted.) That doesn't make it good government, but it certainly is government.