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You have misunderstood my comment. What i meant was "posturing for Nuclear War" is different from "posturing for Standard War". The former is of a far more ser

You have misunderstood my comment. What i meant was "posturing for Nuclear War" is different from "posturing for Standard War". The former is of a far more serious "dimension" than the latter and current posturing by Putin on that dimension does not warrant taking it seriously. >If the consensus was that this is an empty threat there would be immediate intervention. I am not clear what you mean here; Joe Biden is already on record saying he does not want American and Russian soldiers shooting at each other since that may lead to WW3. The same goes for the EU countries via the NATO pact.

jacquesm 5y ago
Yes, but the alternative is to stand by while a couple of million people are going to be slaughtered and anybody that knows anything about European history knows that that will not stand unopposed. So: whatever Putin does he should do but the world should not be standing by while we're being salamied into non-existance. Remember?: First they came for the Communists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Communist Then they came for the Socialists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Socialist Then they came for the trade unionists And I did not speak out Because I was not a trade unionist Then they came for the Jews And I did not speak out Because I was not a Jew Then they came for me And there was no one left To speak out for me https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_... Right now we can stand by and pretend we're not Ukrainians, but the fact is that no longer matters, we are all Ukrainians right now, whether we like it or not. What we do about it is what will set us apart, and sometimes it is better to act and to suffer than not to act. I'm getting the feeling that sentiment in Europe is shifting from inaction to action, and the current troop movements are a reflection of the fact that that is not just public sentiment. Just standing by is being an accomplice. Putin may well see that as a pretext (or even an actual reason) to turn this into a nuclear war, but right at this moment the only thing that stops an incursion by NATO is the fact that Putin has threatened to retaliate with nukes. Do not underestimate the very thin knife edge on which the world is currently balancing.

jacquesm 5y ago

Yes, but the alternative is to stand by while a couple of million people are going to be slaughtered and anybody that knows anything about European history knows that that will not stand unopposed. So: whatever Putin does he should do but the world should not be standing by while we're being salamied into non-existance. Remember?: First they came for the Communists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Communist Then they came for the Socialists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Socialist Then they came for the trade unionists And I did not speak out Because I was not a trade unionist Then they came for the Jews And I did not speak out Because I was not a Jew Then they came for me And there was no one left To speak out for me https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_... Right now we can stand by and pretend we're not Ukrainians, but the fact is that no longer matters, we are all Ukrainians right now, whether we like it or not. What we do about it is what will set us apart, and sometimes it is better to act and to suffer than not to act. I'm getting the feeling that sentiment in Europe is shifting from inaction to action, and the current troop movements are a reflection of the fact that that is not just public sentiment. Just standing by is being an accomplice. Putin may well see that as a pretext (or even an actual reason) to turn this into a nuclear war, but right at this moment the only thing that stops an incursion by NATO is the fact that Putin has threatened to retaliate with nukes. Do not underestimate the very thin knife edge on which the world is currently balancing.