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Ok give it to me straight: is this some Mozilla employee's plan to scam money out of their bosses or are managers at Mozilla really this stupid? FireFox Mobil

by causi 5y ago

Ok give it to me straight: is this some Mozilla employee's plan to scam money out of their bosses or are managers at Mozilla really this stupid? FireFox Mobile is a mess that breaks if you toggle Desktop Mode and hit the Back button but this is what Mozilla is spending man-hours on.

ramesh31 5y ago
Management and sales completed their takeover of Mozilla over the last 5 years. The Mozilla we knew for decades is dead and gone, and now there's a zombie consumer tech company left in its place. Relevant, as this is exactly what happened: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4VBqTViEx4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4VBqTViEx4
- lallysingh 5y ago
  No, the nerds were killing the company: https://www.zdnet.com/article/endangered-firefox-the-state-of-mozilla/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/endangered-firefox-the-state-o... They were taking in a half billion a year and decided to be a haven for at-best, moderately related technology development efforts. They were losing money. So, after enough bleeding, they stopped doing that and are now experimenting (this is an experiment, just like MDN plus and others) with other things to do. They look like they're still trying to evolve the web.
  - JohnBooty 5y ago
    So they've gone from technology experiments to... uh, technology experiments? I'm not being snarky: how is this different/better?
    - lallysingh 5y ago
      They're aiming for a bit of revenue and trying to aim more precisely at the web. In lieu of Rust, which is a wonderful language, but neither web nor revenue-producing.
    - webmaven 5y ago
      > So they've gone from technology experiments to... uh, technology experiments? I think there is a distinction between technology experiments (which produce prototypes and proofs of concept) and product experiments (which produce MVPs).
    - causi 5y ago
      I wish they'd abandon the technology experiments in favor of browser experiments. I don't want Firefox to reinvent the web, I want it to be as pleasant and useful as it was ten years ago.
toast0 5y ago
> FireFox Mobile is a mess Hey, most of the hamburger menu is visible when you tap it now, and the part that isn't will scroll in. (I have the url bar at the bottom, so it's a little bit harder, I guess) So that's progress.
- MikusR 5y ago
  All that is left to do is make it display actual website content. I can't login to hn in Firefox mobile on my android tablet. It shows white page.
  - causi 5y ago
    For a few weeks now I'm getting the error where if I exit and resume Firefox Mobile too quickly the active tab will be blank grey, and if I try to change tabs the second tab will display the page from the first tab but I can't interact with it. Any subsequent tab I switch to gets replaced with the first tab. It's infuriating.
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by causi 5y ago

ramesh31 5y ago

Management and sales completed their takeover of Mozilla over the last 5 years. The Mozilla we knew for decades is dead and gone, and now there's a zombie consumer tech company left in its place. Relevant, as this is exactly what happened: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4VBqTViEx4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4VBqTViEx4

lallysingh 5y ago
No, the nerds were killing the company: https://www.zdnet.com/article/endangered-firefox-the-state-of-mozilla/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/endangered-firefox-the-state-o... They were taking in a half billion a year and decided to be a haven for at-best, moderately related technology development efforts. They were losing money. So, after enough bleeding, they stopped doing that and are now experimenting (this is an experiment, just like MDN plus and others) with other things to do. They look like they're still trying to evolve the web.
- JohnBooty 5y ago
  So they've gone from technology experiments to... uh, technology experiments? I'm not being snarky: how is this different/better?
  - lallysingh 5y ago
    They're aiming for a bit of revenue and trying to aim more precisely at the web. In lieu of Rust, which is a wonderful language, but neither web nor revenue-producing.
  - webmaven 5y ago
    > So they've gone from technology experiments to... uh, technology experiments? I think there is a distinction between technology experiments (which produce prototypes and proofs of concept) and product experiments (which produce MVPs).
  - causi 5y ago
    I wish they'd abandon the technology experiments in favor of browser experiments. I don't want Firefox to reinvent the web, I want it to be as pleasant and useful as it was ten years ago.

toast0 5y ago

> FireFox Mobile is a mess Hey, most of the hamburger menu is visible when you tap it now, and the part that isn't will scroll in. (I have the url bar at the bottom, so it's a little bit harder, I guess) So that's progress.

MikusR 5y ago
All that is left to do is make it display actual website content. I can't login to hn in Firefox mobile on my android tablet. It shows white page.
- causi 5y ago
  For a few weeks now I'm getting the error where if I exit and resume Firefox Mobile too quickly the active tab will be blank grey, and if I try to change tabs the second tab will display the page from the first tab but I can't interact with it. Any subsequent tab I switch to gets replaced with the first tab. It's infuriating.

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