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Ukraine was also a non-democratic country, until the people decided otherwise. And yes, it was pretty brutal: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_of_Dignit
by koonsolo 5y ago
Ukraine was also a non-democratic country, until the people decided otherwise. And yes, it was pretty brutal: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_of_Dignity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_of_Dignity
- leereeves 5y ago> Ukraine was also a non-democratic country, until the people decided otherwise That's not true. The President of Ukraine who was overthrown in 2014 (Yanukovych) was democratically elected in 2010 in an election that international observers called fair, truly competitive, and an impressive display of democracy.[1] That President was supported mostly by the people of eastern Ukraine and opposed by the people of western Ukraine. 1: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/feb/08/viktor-yanukovych-ukraine-president-election https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/feb/08/viktor-yanukov...
- koonsolo 5y agoTrue that he was democratically elected. But it's hard to call a government democratic when they shoot and kill protesters.
- mbg721 5y agoWalling themselves off from (edit: potential) protesters at taxpayer expense is still good, though?
- leereeves 5y agoI'd say instead that it shows that being democratic doesn't preclude being corrupt and authoritarian.
- cloverich 5y agoI like to think its a step wise progression with the ideal being leaders can change without requiring a revolution or war to happen.
- jacquesm 5y agoDemocracy is first and foremost about peaceful transfer of power after elections. Anything on top of that is luxury. The only alternative is a series of civil wars.