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Another predictor of bad news I have observed is when the human resources (HR) department stays late. Usually, they are the first to leave. When I've seen the

by kqr2 18y ago

Another predictor of bad news I have observed is when the human resources (HR) department stays late. Usually, they are the first to leave. When I've seen them stay late, the next day there were layoffs. They were busy preparing all the layoff packets.

bootload 18y ago
"... Another predictor of bad news I have observed is when the ..." But a lot of Startups don't have HR or departments. The key indicator here is observing principals and noticing any odd behaviour. The example that comes to mind was a mass-sacking at a Startup I worked at where out of character behaviour of the founder(s) and various hanger-ons ("they all got short skin-head haircuts") the day before mass sackings. One day it was normal at work, the next day it was a meeting at an off site building where the difference between being sacked and keeping your job was being sent left up the stairs or right to get your termination notice. The difference being there is a definite "in" loop that had prior knowledge. The leader(s) did not have the balls to address the sacked staff and inform them management stuffed up, hired fast, let go slow and was running out of cash. As for me, I got sent to the left ("and congratulated for keeping a job") a lot of other work mates didn't. I left after the work environment became toxic and invoked my "no working for dickheads" policy. You can read about the companies fortunes here ~ http://www.firstmonday.org/ISSUES/issue6_3/doheny/ http://www.firstmonday.org/ISSUES/issue6_3/doheny/ and here ~ http://150.theage.com.au/view_bestofarticle.asp?straction=update&inttype=1&intid=101 http://150.theage.com.au/view_bestofarticle.asp?straction=up... Working in Startups is no guarantee to a permanent job but how you fire people is just as important as hiring them.

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Another predictor of bad news I have observed is when the human resources (HR) department stays late. Usually, they are the first to leave. When I've seen the

by kqr2 18y ago

bootload 18y ago
"... Another predictor of bad news I have observed is when the ..." But a lot of Startups don't have HR or departments. The key indicator here is observing principals and noticing any odd behaviour. The example that comes to mind was a mass-sacking at a Startup I worked at where out of character behaviour of the founder(s) and various hanger-ons ("they all got short skin-head haircuts") the day before mass sackings. One day it was normal at work, the next day it was a meeting at an off site building where the difference between being sacked and keeping your job was being sent left up the stairs or right to get your termination notice. The difference being there is a definite "in" loop that had prior knowledge. The leader(s) did not have the balls to address the sacked staff and inform them management stuffed up, hired fast, let go slow and was running out of cash. As for me, I got sent to the left ("and congratulated for keeping a job") a lot of other work mates didn't. I left after the work environment became toxic and invoked my "no working for dickheads" policy. You can read about the companies fortunes here ~ http://www.firstmonday.org/ISSUES/issue6_3/doheny/ http://www.firstmonday.org/ISSUES/issue6_3/doheny/ and here ~ http://150.theage.com.au/view_bestofarticle.asp?straction=update&inttype=1&intid=101 http://150.theage.com.au/view_bestofarticle.asp?straction=up... Working in Startups is no guarantee to a permanent job but how you fire people is just as important as hiring them.