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This is seriously beyond what I would hace thought feasible. Literally a virtual reality rig for flies that tracks their wing movement to guide virtual movement

This is seriously beyond what I would hace thought feasible. Literally a virtual reality rig for flies that tracks their wing movement to guide virtual movement? And yet we barely have a similar set up for human locomotion? What gjves?

KineticLensman 5y ago
Compared with humans, flies don't have many processing neurons between their effectors (wings) and their eyes. It's why they can take off so quickly when you try to swat them. Their simple but effective processing allows them to be more easily manipulated then humans. Also, the flies aren't going to say "Meh this VR has fallen into the uncanny valley" or similar.
- technothrasher 5y ago
  > It's why they can take off so quickly when you try to swat them. It's also why defeating them is simple. They fly up and away from whatever is coming at them. But if you come at them on at least two sides, they simply fly up. If you sweep your hands toward them and then move up as you bring your hands together, you'll nail the fly almost every time.
  - mimentum 5y ago
    This guy SWATs
  - 14 5y ago
    They became easy to kill and fun after I got a bug-a-salt rifle. It is a salt gun for shooting flies and works quite well and is very entertaining at the same time. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FTVn6OhATaI&feature=emb_title https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FTVn6OhATaI&feature=emb_title
  - silicon2401 5y ago
    that's pretty genius. do you have a similar trick for getting over the revulsion at the thought of touching a fly?
    - throwanem 5y ago
      Wash your hands thoroughly after? Works for me, although I'll still grab a rolled-up newspaper first if there's time.
    - T-A 5y ago
      Gloves?
      - silicon2401 5y ago
        That's a valid suggestion, but unfortunately wouldn't hide the substance. I think I have separate revulsion to insect contact and insect weight/mass. I'd prefer certain bugs to not touch me (e.g. ladybugs are fine), but I _really_ would prefer them to feel weightless. Something about a bug's weight being perceptible is intensely revolting to me, as if they're meant to be weightless wisps
        T-A 5y ago
        Two of these then: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fly-killing_device#Flyswatter https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fly-killing_device#Flyswatter The fly gun looks like fun too.
onedognight 5y ago
The new part here is not the fly glued into a VR rig. Researchers have been doing the VR fly thing for well over a decade! Dickenson was doing this at Caltech at least in 2008. https://authors.library.caltech.edu/90960/ https://authors.library.caltech.edu/90960/

KineticLensman 5y ago

Compared with humans, flies don't have many processing neurons between their effectors (wings) and their eyes. It's why they can take off so quickly when you try to swat them. Their simple but effective processing allows them to be more easily manipulated then humans. Also, the flies aren't going to say "Meh this VR has fallen into the uncanny valley" or similar.

technothrasher 5y ago
> It's why they can take off so quickly when you try to swat them. It's also why defeating them is simple. They fly up and away from whatever is coming at them. But if you come at them on at least two sides, they simply fly up. If you sweep your hands toward them and then move up as you bring your hands together, you'll nail the fly almost every time.
- mimentum 5y ago
  This guy SWATs
- 14 5y ago
  They became easy to kill and fun after I got a bug-a-salt rifle. It is a salt gun for shooting flies and works quite well and is very entertaining at the same time. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FTVn6OhATaI&feature=emb_title https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FTVn6OhATaI&feature=emb_title
- silicon2401 5y ago
  that's pretty genius. do you have a similar trick for getting over the revulsion at the thought of touching a fly?
  - throwanem 5y ago
    Wash your hands thoroughly after? Works for me, although I'll still grab a rolled-up newspaper first if there's time.
  - T-A 5y ago
    Gloves?
    - silicon2401 5y ago
      That's a valid suggestion, but unfortunately wouldn't hide the substance. I think I have separate revulsion to insect contact and insect weight/mass. I'd prefer certain bugs to not touch me (e.g. ladybugs are fine), but I _really_ would prefer them to feel weightless. Something about a bug's weight being perceptible is intensely revolting to me, as if they're meant to be weightless wisps
      - T-A 5y ago
        Two of these then: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fly-killing_device#Flyswatter https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fly-killing_device#Flyswatter The fly gun looks like fun too.

onedognight 5y ago

The new part here is not the fly glued into a VR rig. Researchers have been doing the VR fly thing for well over a decade! Dickenson was doing this at Caltech at least in 2008. https://authors.library.caltech.edu/90960/ https://authors.library.caltech.edu/90960/