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Ukraine was not going to join NATO, given that it's having an ongoing territorial dispute with Russia. But also, Russia's belief that it's entitled to decide f
by ogogmad 5y ago
Ukraine was not going to join NATO, given that it's having an ongoing territorial dispute with Russia.
But also, Russia's belief that it's entitled to decide for another sovereign country which clubs it can and cannot join reveals what Russia's actual intentions were. [EDIT: The relevant club for Ukraine is actually the European Union.]
The so-called "anti-Imperialists" on the far left like George Galloway who have always seen NATO as the enemy, and have always supported anti-NATO countries like Russia, Iran, Venezuela and China with 95% of their throats, have a really odd understanding of what imperialism is. Is this war the most blatant, non-galaxy-brained instance of "imperialism" that we've seen in many of our lifetimes?
- ssijak 5y agoAre you naive enough in the thinking that US is not doing the same or even worse than Russia (because US reach is much bigger)? Influencing, blackmailing and toppling governments they deem not cooperative enough.
- me_me_me 5y agoWho the fuck cares what US did/does, its completely separate matter. Just because US is warmongering doesn't mean russia can too.
- ssijak 5y ago"Who the fuck cares what US did/does" that is the exact mentality that get us in this kind of situations. I did not say Russia can, nobody should be able to do that. I'm just saying that the next time US warmongers and plans to destroy another country, that we in the "west" should sound the same outcry we are doing now.
- me_me_me 5y agoThe next time around people like you will be complaining about 'how come russia invaded ukraine and it was ok' so how come conflict x is suddenly not ok. This kind of argument only derails conversations and doesn't achieve anything.