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Star Trek fleet had actually excellent policies: - "any contact to less developed civilizations is strictly forbidden". - "do not interfere in any way and don

Star Trek fleet had actually excellent policies: - "any contact to less developed civilizations is strictly forbidden". - "do not interfere in any way and don't take a side in conflicts of sovereign civilizations". Both of them were crucial. If we followed these principles, the world would be much happier and peaceful place. What do we do instead? Bomb democracy into societies not yet ready for it, force trade agreements to detriment of less developed countries, incite and profit from wars that would either never happen or finish much earlier if we left those people alone. If we were James T Kirk and Jan Luc Picard instead of Joe Biden and Vladimir Putin, we should not need to worry for the future of human species.

roca 5y ago
If Starfleet's policy is to simply stand aside and watch while one civilization genocides another, I'm not a fan.
Cthulhu_ 5y ago
> If we followed these principles, the world would be much happier and peaceful place. But countries like Russia would be free to invade Ukraine and others because of the "don't interfere" and "don't take a side" policy. It's like the "I did nothing" poem. NATO was founded to try and prevent another country from building an empire like Germany tried in WW2, because at the time it was like that poem, first they came. Which was about politics and religious groups initially, but it applies to Germany's conquest of Europe as well.
- tut-urut-utut 5y ago
  > But countries like Russia would be free to invade Ukraine and others because of the "don't interfere" and "don't take a side" policy. The "don't interfere" policy would also apply to Russia. And if they still try, the others would be responsible not to let them interfere. In the same way as others would need to stop China, USA, and Zimbabwe when they attempt to interfere with another sovereign state on the lesser level of development.
  - CRConrad 5y ago
    > The "don't interfere" policy would also apply to Russia. Yeah, good luck with that. > And if they still try, the others would be responsible not to let them interfere. Yup. That's why Ukraine should have been let into NATO long ago.
pvaldes 5y ago
> any contact to less developed civilizations is strictly forbidden >> If we followed these principles, the world would be much happier and peaceful place. And less developed civilizations would have polio, ox carts, and witch medicine.
- tut-urut-utut 5y ago
  Instead, they got slavery, colonialism, multinational corporations, foreign installed puppet governments, debts, modern slavery, outside financed extremist groups and civil wars, ... Just try to look objectively, and you'll see that a vast majority of people in Iraq, Libya, Iran, and Afghanistan lived much better and safer life then after a series of foreign interventions and introduction of "democracy". If we go a bit further in the past, the whole population of South and North America got annihilated by the diseases that came with the colonial forces. So yes, they would definitely be better if we had a Star Trek approach.
  - pvaldes 5y ago
    The myth of the good savage conveniently forgets that most, if not all of this things were present yet in spades in the primitive societies, with other names, but not so different in fact. And people in those countries also live a safer life with modern medicine, airbags, concrete in buildings, modern roads or telephones that they don't developed. You can't take just the good parts of modern societies while claiming that those societies are evil and refusing to improve them. This is just hypocritical.

roca 5y ago

If Starfleet's policy is to simply stand aside and watch while one civilization genocides another, I'm not a fan.

Cthulhu_ 5y ago

> If we followed these principles, the world would be much happier and peaceful place. But countries like Russia would be free to invade Ukraine and others because of the "don't interfere" and "don't take a side" policy. It's like the "I did nothing" poem. NATO was founded to try and prevent another country from building an empire like Germany tried in WW2, because at the time it was like that poem, first they came. Which was about politics and religious groups initially, but it applies to Germany's conquest of Europe as well.

tut-urut-utut 5y ago
> But countries like Russia would be free to invade Ukraine and others because of the "don't interfere" and "don't take a side" policy. The "don't interfere" policy would also apply to Russia. And if they still try, the others would be responsible not to let them interfere. In the same way as others would need to stop China, USA, and Zimbabwe when they attempt to interfere with another sovereign state on the lesser level of development.
- CRConrad 5y ago
  > The "don't interfere" policy would also apply to Russia. Yeah, good luck with that. > And if they still try, the others would be responsible not to let them interfere. Yup. That's why Ukraine should have been let into NATO long ago.

pvaldes 5y ago

> any contact to less developed civilizations is strictly forbidden >> If we followed these principles, the world would be much happier and peaceful place. And less developed civilizations would have polio, ox carts, and witch medicine.

tut-urut-utut 5y ago
Instead, they got slavery, colonialism, multinational corporations, foreign installed puppet governments, debts, modern slavery, outside financed extremist groups and civil wars, ... Just try to look objectively, and you'll see that a vast majority of people in Iraq, Libya, Iran, and Afghanistan lived much better and safer life then after a series of foreign interventions and introduction of "democracy". If we go a bit further in the past, the whole population of South and North America got annihilated by the diseases that came with the colonial forces. So yes, they would definitely be better if we had a Star Trek approach.
- pvaldes 5y ago
  The myth of the good savage conveniently forgets that most, if not all of this things were present yet in spades in the primitive societies, with other names, but not so different in fact. And people in those countries also live a safer life with modern medicine, airbags, concrete in buildings, modern roads or telephones that they don't developed. You can't take just the good parts of modern societies while claiming that those societies are evil and refusing to improve them. This is just hypocritical.