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Game was won long time ago, the public ate client-server executables as soon as modems were fast enough in 1997 with the likes of ultima online, MMO's/steam/dr

by pom66 5y ago

Game was won long time ago, the public ate client-server executables as soon as modems were fast enough in 1997 with the likes of ultima online, MMO's/steam/drm is all the same thing, us losing control of our PC's becuase the average gamer and PC user is stupid even among professionals. The industry always wanted to kill infinitely copyable local application binaries and they found their way in via PC gaming in 97 with ultima online, lineage and everquest. That told the entire tech industry the average person would literally pay for a broken application and pay for the priveledge of robbing his or herself. The average member of the PC using public is oblivious. The time to get nervous was the advent of MMO's, which were just RPG's with stolen networking code, which gave valve the inspiration for steam, which was a direct attack on local executables. So valve, Ea, etc, have been hacking our PC's since the mid 90's and early 2000's. To complain about pluton now, means you're 20 years too late. Go have a read of this paper by university researchers, this has been the plan of the WIP (world intellectual property organization) since the mid 90's. The attack on and the ending of general computing was planned from the beginning. https://web2.qatar.cmu.edu/cs/15349/dl/DRM-TC.pdf https://web2.qatar.cmu.edu/cs/15349/dl/DRM-TC.pdf PC game companies accelerated it with gambling by rebranding their PC rpg's with stolen networking multiplayer mmo's to disposess the masses. Most hackernews commenters today are oblivious, I see positive comments about steam mmo's/f2p games when they are just regular pc games with missing files and game code. Our species is really dumb.

beebmam 5y ago
I'm having a hard time understanding your argument. Are you saying that ultima online, lineage, and everquest were bad? Like, some of the most memorable, and fundamentally important games in history? What exactly do you mean by "stolen networking code"?
- stuu99 5y ago
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- stuu99 5y ago
  Up until 1997 every PC game was something called a local application, aka all the code resides on your pc singleplayer+multipalyer comes inside the same executable. When you network two or more computers together, EVERY program in existence an be split between your machine and some remote machine and run between them as two exe's. You'd only do that if your plan was to steal software from a computer illiterate public. 99.9% of every "MMO" you were given is actually entirely living on your pc, they wanted to kill piracy and artificially jack up game prices because when you network your computers together they can monopolize their own products and inflate the price of software to astronomical levels (aka the subscription). We already had infinity multiplayer games in the 90's in quake 2, go listen here at John carmacks comment. (somewhat paraphrasing) "No limit to the number of players inside a multiplayer world" https://youtu.be/TfeSMaztDVc?t=96 https://youtu.be/TfeSMaztDVc?t=96 So no ultima online, everquest, guild wars 1 ad wow are literally just RPG's with network multiplayer removed and dumped into a seperate exe, aka stolen networking code. Because quake 2 already had limitless multiplayer, and ANY game can be made in a game engine. AKA we could use quake 2 engine and clone all mmo's and turn them back into local applications allowing you to host your own games and remove the user account requirement. Like 99% of pc games until Ultima online in 97. That is why modern Unreal engine FPS games like Transformers fall of cybertron have their multiplayer "shut down" the public bought into the MMO scam that led to steam. So we have an unreal engine game (Transformers FoC) (2014) https://imgur.com/a/RxGQWdq https://imgur.com/a/RxGQWdq And we got UT2004 a game from 2004 that has more features then modern incarnations, how did we end up going backwards in time in PC gaming? AKA how can a game from 2014 have less features then Unreal tournament 2004 and prior even though Transformers was released in 2014? Makes no sense right? That's what I mean by stolen networking code.

by pom66 5y ago

beebmam 5y ago

I'm having a hard time understanding your argument. Are you saying that ultima online, lineage, and everquest were bad? Like, some of the most memorable, and fundamentally important games in history? What exactly do you mean by "stolen networking code"?

stuu99 5y ago
stuu99 5y ago
stuu99 5y ago
stuu99 5y ago
Up until 1997 every PC game was something called a local application, aka all the code resides on your pc singleplayer+multipalyer comes inside the same executable. When you network two or more computers together, EVERY program in existence an be split between your machine and some remote machine and run between them as two exe's. You'd only do that if your plan was to steal software from a computer illiterate public. 99.9% of every "MMO" you were given is actually entirely living on your pc, they wanted to kill piracy and artificially jack up game prices because when you network your computers together they can monopolize their own products and inflate the price of software to astronomical levels (aka the subscription). We already had infinity multiplayer games in the 90's in quake 2, go listen here at John carmacks comment. (somewhat paraphrasing) "No limit to the number of players inside a multiplayer world" https://youtu.be/TfeSMaztDVc?t=96 https://youtu.be/TfeSMaztDVc?t=96 So no ultima online, everquest, guild wars 1 ad wow are literally just RPG's with network multiplayer removed and dumped into a seperate exe, aka stolen networking code. Because quake 2 already had limitless multiplayer, and ANY game can be made in a game engine. AKA we could use quake 2 engine and clone all mmo's and turn them back into local applications allowing you to host your own games and remove the user account requirement. Like 99% of pc games until Ultima online in 97. That is why modern Unreal engine FPS games like Transformers fall of cybertron have their multiplayer "shut down" the public bought into the MMO scam that led to steam. So we have an unreal engine game (Transformers FoC) (2014) https://imgur.com/a/RxGQWdq https://imgur.com/a/RxGQWdq And we got UT2004 a game from 2004 that has more features then modern incarnations, how did we end up going backwards in time in PC gaming? AKA how can a game from 2014 have less features then Unreal tournament 2004 and prior even though Transformers was released in 2014? Makes no sense right? That's what I mean by stolen networking code.