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I think that China will pay the price of its burgeoning relationship with Russia at some point. No country wants to be seen as Russia's enabler by the American

by gip 5y ago

I think that China will pay the price of its burgeoning relationship with Russia at some point. No country wants to be seen as Russia's enabler by the American public. The optics for China is bad: Xi / Putin "no limit" meeting just before the invasion, China may have shared US-provided intel information with the Russian,.. At the moment all the eyes are on Ukraine. But soon the world will start wondering who made that possible. And the American public is already biased toward China. I would think following the same path is a bit risky for India.

jelliclesfarm 5y ago
Indians have to eat.
- gip 5y ago
  And the only solution India has here is to support a dictator who has committed war crimes in Syria and attacked Ukraine? As I said in another thread: I believe that the government and policies of a country is a (very lagging) reflexion of the value of the citizens.
  - ridiculous_leke 5y ago
    You are not understanding the gravity of the situation. Failures in sourcing fertilizers can create severe food security crisis in the country and will further push farmers who already live on the edge. Farmer suicide is a big issue in India. I would also like to remind you that India is neighbored by two nuclear armed hostile nations who have invaded India in the past. India doesn't work with Russia because of some world domination goals. It works with Russia to ensure its food security and safety.
    - throwaway_4ever 5y ago
      Russia also worked with Nazi Germany before being invaded themselves in WW2. You don't get security by appeasing and helping tyrants. If a Russian-China alliance comes knocking at India, the world might remember your own "not my problem" stance.
      - pastacacioepepe 5y ago
      - ridiculous_leke 5y ago
        > Russia also worked with Nazi Germany before being invaded themselves in WW2. So did Poland and other countries. It's not always easy to avoid the beast. India does have the most pro-West government it has seen till now and is already sending medical supplies to Ukraine. I am certain that they have taken a note of Russian atrocities and will take steps to gradually wean off Russia dependence. But it's not something you can do in a day or month.

by gip 5y ago

jelliclesfarm 5y ago

Indians have to eat.

gip 5y ago
And the only solution India has here is to support a dictator who has committed war crimes in Syria and attacked Ukraine? As I said in another thread: I believe that the government and policies of a country is a (very lagging) reflexion of the value of the citizens.
- ridiculous_leke 5y ago
  You are not understanding the gravity of the situation. Failures in sourcing fertilizers can create severe food security crisis in the country and will further push farmers who already live on the edge. Farmer suicide is a big issue in India. I would also like to remind you that India is neighbored by two nuclear armed hostile nations who have invaded India in the past. India doesn't work with Russia because of some world domination goals. It works with Russia to ensure its food security and safety.
  - throwaway_4ever 5y ago
    Russia also worked with Nazi Germany before being invaded themselves in WW2. You don't get security by appeasing and helping tyrants. If a Russian-China alliance comes knocking at India, the world might remember your own "not my problem" stance.
    - pastacacioepepe 5y ago
    - ridiculous_leke 5y ago
      > Russia also worked with Nazi Germany before being invaded themselves in WW2. So did Poland and other countries. It's not always easy to avoid the beast. India does have the most pro-West government it has seen till now and is already sending medical supplies to Ukraine. I am certain that they have taken a note of Russian atrocities and will take steps to gradually wean off Russia dependence. But it's not something you can do in a day or month.