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Reuters forgot to mention the second part of the argument. 150k+ Hungarian people do live in Ukraine and they could be attacked directly. All countries are allo

Reuters forgot to mention the second part of the argument. 150k+ Hungarian people do live in Ukraine and they could be attacked directly. All countries are allowed to assess the risks of involvement. Hungary's border with Ukraine is short anyway. Hungary participates in all sanctions, even though they hurt the country's economy a lot more than others. Some of the weapons are transported using Hungarian C17s by the way, so Hungary does actively participate according to the NATO and EU decisions.

aix1 5y ago
> 150k+ Hungarian people do live in Ukraine and they could be attacked directly. I am clearly not in a position to conduct risk assessments on anyone else's behalf, but I personally don't find this argument particularly compelling. It would require the invading army to specifically seek out those 0.3% of the population that are Hungarian to exact revenge on them. Further, to avoid the impression that Hungarians are somehow a particularly large ethnic group in Ukraine, there are comparable numbers of Bulgarians, Romanians and Poles living there.
th3sly 5y ago
Also Reuters forgot to mention that Hungary is also a revisionist country as Russia is, and that it wants Transylvania, part of Slovakia and part of Serbia.
- briffid 5y ago
  Why not full Slovakia, part of Austria (Burgenland), Slovenia and whole Croatia? All them were lost for Hungary after WWI. :D Anyway, Hungary is not a revisionist country, there are revisionist politicians who has never ever been part of the government since 1990. However, the little core of truth in your statement is that there has been tense relations between the Hungrian ethnic minorities and the majorities in neighboring countries, and even though e.g. both Romania and Hungary are EU members, there is still discrimination based on ethnicity/language/religion. (The most extreme neighboring country is Ukraine, where minority languages are effectively banned in schools and public insitutes. That's one thing why Ukraine cannot easily join EU.) The Serbian relation is getting better (cultural autonomy is provided for Hungarian minority). I must also note that the vast majority of people in Hungary goes along well with Slovaks, Romanians etc., and the Hungarian people living as minority also are quite fine with people the live together with, so these issues are mostly happening in politics. For example Slovakia banned singing the Hungarian anthem in 2019 https://newsnow.tasr.sk/policy/simon-ban-on-singing-of-hungarian-anthem-in-slovakia-stirs-tension/ https://newsnow.tasr.sk/policy/simon-ban-on-singing-of-hunga... I wonder what would be a good policy for such an unfriendly act.
  - dendriti 5y ago
    Orbán literally is a staunch revanchist. Not sure how you can say Hungary is not revanchist when its powerful and noisy dictator constantly talks about Greater Hungary. Also not sure why Slovakia banning an anthem makes Hungarian revanchism any better.
pupppet 5y ago
> 150k+ Hungarian people do live in Ukraine Sounds like a reason to support Ukraine.

aix1 5y ago

> 150k+ Hungarian people do live in Ukraine and they could be attacked directly. I am clearly not in a position to conduct risk assessments on anyone else's behalf, but I personally don't find this argument particularly compelling. It would require the invading army to specifically seek out those 0.3% of the population that are Hungarian to exact revenge on them. Further, to avoid the impression that Hungarians are somehow a particularly large ethnic group in Ukraine, there are comparable numbers of Bulgarians, Romanians and Poles living there.

th3sly 5y ago

Also Reuters forgot to mention that Hungary is also a revisionist country as Russia is, and that it wants Transylvania, part of Slovakia and part of Serbia.

briffid 5y ago
Why not full Slovakia, part of Austria (Burgenland), Slovenia and whole Croatia? All them were lost for Hungary after WWI. :D Anyway, Hungary is not a revisionist country, there are revisionist politicians who has never ever been part of the government since 1990. However, the little core of truth in your statement is that there has been tense relations between the Hungrian ethnic minorities and the majorities in neighboring countries, and even though e.g. both Romania and Hungary are EU members, there is still discrimination based on ethnicity/language/religion. (The most extreme neighboring country is Ukraine, where minority languages are effectively banned in schools and public insitutes. That's one thing why Ukraine cannot easily join EU.) The Serbian relation is getting better (cultural autonomy is provided for Hungarian minority). I must also note that the vast majority of people in Hungary goes along well with Slovaks, Romanians etc., and the Hungarian people living as minority also are quite fine with people the live together with, so these issues are mostly happening in politics. For example Slovakia banned singing the Hungarian anthem in 2019 https://newsnow.tasr.sk/policy/simon-ban-on-singing-of-hungarian-anthem-in-slovakia-stirs-tension/ https://newsnow.tasr.sk/policy/simon-ban-on-singing-of-hunga... I wonder what would be a good policy for such an unfriendly act.
- dendriti 5y ago
  Orbán literally is a staunch revanchist. Not sure how you can say Hungary is not revanchist when its powerful and noisy dictator constantly talks about Greater Hungary. Also not sure why Slovakia banning an anthem makes Hungarian revanchism any better.

pupppet 5y ago

> 150k+ Hungarian people do live in Ukraine Sounds like a reason to support Ukraine.